[PLUG-AV] Issue with streaming (but not recording) for next PLUG Meeting May 10th 2011

Tue Apr 26 14:21:56 WST 2011

Should note in the spirit of full disclosure, there is benefit in this for
us as well, by hosting other community groups we look better on grant
applications.

On 26 April 2011 14:20, Daniel Harmsworth <atrophy at caffeinator.net> wrote:

> Heyo,
>
> For those who dont know, I am currently chairman at the Artifactory, we can
> probably put you up for talks. We are currently working on a proposal to put
> to LotteryWest to get our presentation setup going (We host talks from
> artists etc interested in tech as well that have been quite popular).
>
> We have decent internet and are actively working on improving the venue for
> talks.
>
>
>
>
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> On 26 April 2011 12:46, James Bromberger <james at rcpt.to> wrote:
>
>>  On 26/04/2011 11:53 AM, Harry McNally wrote:
>>
>> On venues, I have considered the Collins Street Centre in South Perth. It's
>> about 100m from the bus stops on Canning Highway (so 106 is a bus option).
>> The venue costs $25 to $35 per hour IIRC.
>>
>>  I spoke to the Community centre in the middle of Perth as well - right at
>> the train station/Northbridge Arts complex. They have bandwidth in one room,
>> are $13 for the first hour, and then $27 for the rest of the day, but only
>> have availability for Thursday and Friday evenings.  (What would really top
>> it off is if we could get storage on site for A/V and other purposes. A
>> small cupboard or something. Hm.)
>>
>> Naturally with PLUGs minor finances, I am thinking $0. We have $2.2k in
>> the bank; we've burnt through $1.5 k in the last 4 months (this Av project,
>> Quiz Night, PO Box being the main features), and our projected annual income
>> from membership is only $400 - that's $33/month income we can afford to
>> spend absolute max. Given our meetings are typically an hour before hand for
>> Av set up and ctte meeting, then 1+ hours of meeting, we'd be over 2 hours -
>> so $25 - $35 @ 3 hours = $75 - $105 per month, or $900 - $1260 per year.
>>
>> *Of course, I am hoping that everyone on the AV mailing list is a member
>> (hint, go read the PLUG web site to sign up and transfer in your $10/year).
>> * If you're not a member, please tell me why not.
>>
>>
>>  What is lacks is a network connection but if ever it was useful for an
>> installfest or so on then wireless broadband and a local mirror could be an
>> option. Bookings are essential for the venue. We did have a talk there for
>> PLUG in Meeting Room 2 (upstairs) but the main hall is quite large.
>>
>>  From what I have read, we'd need a fixed line, reliable delivery for the
>> stream to the Icecast server, from what everyone has said in forums;
>> however, a trail of a 3G wireless may be prove otherwise, if anyone has one
>> to test tomorrow?? The volume of data may be a concern through.
>>
>>
>>  Another venue that may be had for modest cost is the hall attached to St
>> Martins in the Fields church in Kensington. Again, wireless broadband would be
>> needed.
>>
>> Finding council facilities with reasonable internet access may be the go.
>> The George Burnett Centre in Manning has office staff and I assume an internet
>> connection.
>>
>>  Potentially being CBD based if we're having to pay money would be better
>> (if it is a similar rate). There's something about being _Perth_ LUG that
>> makes me feel we should be in the CBD - at the cross roads of trains and
>> buses.
>>
>>  I once checked out the venue at Tech Park and it was available but internet
>> access was charged at $35 per attendee!
>>
>>  Wow. That's about half a months worth of unlimited broadband.
>>
>>  On moving the venue around, I suspect there are a lot of armchair PLUG list
>> users who will give you all the reasons why they can't get to a venue. I think
>> they are just excused to explain their shiny trousers. Just keep on with talks
>> at venues that are easy to find and use and make the topics the focus. I think
>> having regular talks will create the momentum to bring people out to the
>> talks. If you reach more people with streaming then a smaller venue is
>> possible too.
>>
>>  True. However, we have grown in numbers attending since we have started
>> moving the venue around; from October to December we were around 3 - 5
>> people at each meeting. We're now looking around 17 or so for your talk at
>> UCC, Harry. Of course, some of that may have to do with your warm
>> personality brining people in. :) (*rotfl*)
>>
>> Some people have said to me that they HAVE come along because we were
>> somewhere new/more accessible, but I don't think we've lost people by doing
>> so.
>>
>> I think that as soon as we're looking at community centres, they are all
>> charged, even for non profits (through at a reduced rate). If we have to
>> pay, and the rates are comparable, my personal preference would be for the
>> city centre - putting the "Perth" back into PLUG!
>>
>>
>>  As an aside, Trent (lathiat) runs big LANs so he has gear and may be able to
>> offer advice on network connectivity in venues. I think the last one they had
>> at Cannington Greyhounds (hauled in power trucks and all sorts). Could be a
>> useful discussion.
>>
>>
>> Interesting. Will have ot try and catch up with him...
>>
>>   James
>>
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> Daniel Harmsworth
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Daniel Harmsworth
Chairman, The Perth Artifactory Inc.
http://www.artifactory.org.au
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