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On 5/12/2011 2:10 PM, Nick Bannon wrote:
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<pre wrap="">On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 12:19:56PM +0800, James Bromberger wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I'd like us to get our hands on one of the USB 3 HDMI capture devices
and see if that will work as well, but again, later - after we have this
current grant taken care of...
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No.</pre>
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I think that's precisely what we need to quote for, because I can't find
good value alternatives. So we need experimental alternatives.</pre>
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Saying "experimental" may not be reassuring for a grant. Hence
staying to the proven track... if possible...<br>
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<pre wrap="">* Two mid range HDMI-out camcorders, different brands, such as the Sony
HDR-PJ10, $795 each at Harvey Norman. Subject to sanity checking
on whether it includes its own battery eliminator and mini-HDMI to
HDMI adaptor.</pre>
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Cable for this isn't a problem - I purchased one from Deal Extreme
last year to confirm my personal mini-HDMI out camera does live feed
for capture (it does). What is an unknown is getting Linux to talk
to an HDMI capture device of some sort, and then getting video
(transcoded?) to dvswitch.<br>
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* Two HDMI capture interfaces, one PCI-E, one USB 3.0:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/">http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.mbsdirect.com/current/BINTSSHU-BlackMagic-Intensity-Shuttle-USB-3.0-capture-device-for-Windows.html">http://www.mbsdirect.com/current/BINTSSHU-BlackMagic-Intensity-Shuttle-USB-3.0-capture-device-for-Windows.html</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.tekserve.com/store/550/Capture_Cards_I_O_Devices/31036">http://www.tekserve.com/store/550/Capture_Cards_I_O_Devices/31036</a>
USD$189.05 each plus P&P
* Two <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://hdfury.eu/">http://hdfury.eu/</a> 's so we can capture HDMI on a Twinpact 100.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://hdfury.eu/product.php?id_product=10">http://hdfury.eu/product.php?id_product=10</a>
EUR 208.25 each plus P&P</pre>
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Why get a Fury (to capture HDMI to Twinpact to PC), when you have
HDMI capture with the Blackmagic Shuttle above (HDMI direct to PC,
no Twinpact required?)?<br>
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* Four secondhand MiniDV camcorders for a we-know-it-works some-may-break
option, Cash Converters or (less than) $450 each in the Quokka.</pre>
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My only reasons for this are: LotteryWest are after a formal quote;
and we want a repeatable supply chain if possible.<br>
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<pre wrap="">We need to probably do that as well, but perhaps later as any delay now
could delay our current grant application. I'm wondering if we should
submit for the semi-professional cameras that still have fire wire on
them; they may give a better image quality, etc.
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I'm not swamped by easy-to-supply alternatives, so yes, we need those
quotes on new iLink/Fireware/IEEE1394/MiniDV cameras.</pre>
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Yes, and the best I can see -- as you show -- are the "professional"
models:<br>
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<pre wrap=""><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sony.com.au/product/hdr-fx1000e/specs">http://www.sony.com.au/product/hdr-fx1000e/specs</a> RRP AUD $5699</pre>
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But I thought I saw one around $1500 or so.... can't see it now...<br>
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What we HAD put on our original submission was a quote for a pair of
Canon HV20 from Camera-Warehouse.com.au, but now that I check that
it doesn't have firewire...<br>
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I spoke with Plaza camera and they don't have anything. They did
recommend Camera Electronic, whom I have emailed.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.cameraelectronic.com.au/">http://www.cameraelectronic.com.au/</a><br>
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<pre wrap="">The rest of these are missing it...
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sony.com.au/product/CompareProducts.action?site=hp_en_AU_i&models=HDR-PJ50VE&models=HDR-XR160E&models=DCR-SR68E&models=HDR-PJ30VE&models=HDR-PJ10E&models=HDR-CX700VE&models=HDR-CX130E&models=HDR-CX110E&models=DCR-SX65E&models=HDR-AX2000E&models=HDR-FX1000E&models=NEX-VG20E&models=NEX-VG20EH&models=NEX-VG10E">http://www.sony.com.au/product/CompareProducts.action?site=hp_en_AU_i&models=HDR-PJ50VE&models=HDR-XR160E&models=DCR-SR68E&models=HDR-PJ30VE&models=HDR-PJ10E&models=HDR-CX700VE&models=HDR-CX130E&models=HDR-CX110E&models=DCR-SX65E&models=HDR-AX2000E&models=HDR-FX1000E&models=NEX-VG20E&models=NEX-VG20EH&models=NEX-VG10E</a>
Probably one of these archived ones are available in shops:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sony.com.au/product/ProductComparisonWizard.action?site=hp_en_AU_i§iontype=product&modelName=HDR-FX1000E&deepestLevelCategoryId=CAM+Camcorder">http://www.sony.com.au/product/ProductComparisonWizard.action?site=hp_en_AU_i§iontype=product&modelName=HDR-FX1000E&deepestLevelCategoryId=CAM+Camcorder</a>
Google's not helping much:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.google.com.au/search?q=camcorder+ilink">http://www.google.com.au/search?q=camcorder+ilink</a>|firewire|1394+-cable&tbm=shop
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