<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Gavin,</div><div><br></div><div>If you do go down the route of a mini PC, I highly recommend having a look at a small form factor 'refurbished' PC. These are essentially ex-lease office machines and they're dirt cheap. I have a Dell SFF running Proxmox with a bunch of virtual machines and Linux containers, with a USB HDD hanging off it for storage. They'd make a great home theatre PC and are much cheaper than buying something like an Intel NUC.</div><div><br></div><div>Here's one company I have purchased from before, but there are others. Worth checking eBay as well.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.untech.com.au/collections/desktops-and-workstations">https://www.untech.com.au/collections/desktops-and-workstations</a></div><div><br></div><div>Good luck!</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,<br></div><div>Blake Munro<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 at 20:03, gavinwc <<a href="mailto:gavin.chester@gmail.com">gavin.chester@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Brilliant! Thanks, Dan. </div><div><br></div><div>I had such devices completely off my radar and had been searching fruitlessly for a cheap external TV tuner in a dongle form rather than a set-top box. When I expanded my search to your suggested "set top box" I found several such devices under $50 and available in-store locally. Thank you. That's a "dah" to me and why I knew asking others would help :-)<br></div><div><br></div><div>BTW: Your setup you describe is not alien to me and have done that myself before. And, while I like the simplicity of what I've had for about 10 years (a fanless raspberry-pi running libreelec for kodi dedicated to the TV), my most recent thoughts are to also have a setup with computing activities available on a much more powerful i5 or i7 miniPC to also lie back in bed with my wireless keyboard and wall-mounted 43" screen rather than balancing a 17" laptop on my lap. </div><div><br></div><div>Hope everyone has a safe 2024.</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div>Gavin Chester <br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 30 Dec 2023 at 16:48, Dan Buzzard <<a href="mailto:dan@danscomp.net" target="_blank">dan@danscomp.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><u></u><div><div>Hi,<br></div><div><br></div><div>I just have a Ubuntu PC plugged into my TV with wireless keyboard and mouse and just use it to watch media like I would on a laptop or at my desk.<br></div><div><br></div><div> I don't watch TV. But if I did then a TV set top box would be the way to go.<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/blaupunkt-btv3stb-full-hd-set-top-box" target="_blank">https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/blaupunkt-btv3stb-full-hd-set-top-box</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>These devices are meant to allow old TVs to receive modern digital broadcast and from what I've seen most of them haven't gone "smart" yet.<br></div><div><br></div><div>-Dan</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On Sat, 30 Dec 2023, at 3:44 PM, gavinwc wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="m_-2157382184035512265m_7876207149082645459qt"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi People,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Season's greeting to you all, even non-Christians and atheists like me :-)<br></div><div><br></div><div>This is a very pedestrian question from someone who has been quietly lurking for nigh-on 25 years now with very little to say over that time, but I respect your collective experience for a source of good advice -<br></div><div><br></div><div>Problem: I abhor any "smart" device, phones, fridges, TVs, etc. But, we have decided to be decadent and get a new TV. Our existing dumb TV is long in the tooth and faulty, but I have long augment its features with streaming services via a raspberry-pi/kodi setup. All I really want to do is upgrade that sort of system, maybe substituting the pi box with a more powerful mini-PC like an Intel NUC, or something similar so I can also lie back and do a bit of web browsing occasionally. <br></div><div><br></div><div>But, where are all the "dumb" TVs these days!? <br></div><div><br></div><div>I know this dilemma is the stuff of many wasted bytes and pixels online, but my searching for solutions is proving very time-consuming with many web pages outdated. I know I can supposedly not activate the TV's smart features, and have done that in the past, but other family members soon couldn't cope and activated them anyway. Besides that, I don't trust that a deactivated smart TV is just sitting there as a fully passive receiving device of free-to-air broadcasts. <br></div><div><br></div><div>At this stage, because I'm also looking to do some computing operations, I'm looking at a cheap IntelNUC mini-PC mated to a BIG UHD monitor (eg, Dell 43"), but such a setup lacks a TV tuner for free-to-air reception. External TV tuner dongles also seem to be a dying thing these days and web pages are mostly outdated. 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