[plug] Telstra CLI/CID Question

[Michael Hunt]

I think that this is probably the more logical answer. My little Caller id
unit (one of the $20 jobies from target) asks you for the area code (in 3
digits so the number always displays as 089) when you put a new battery in
it.

Thus the number displayed is:

	089 444 5555

With a short text field down the bottom which Telstra has decided to use to
repeat the number in. I gather that this will be used in the future to send
name information (but iirc there were a whole bunch of privacy issues that
may have forced it to be canned).

Could be that the hardware is causing the spaces and not Telstra. One of the
techs from Ne3tcomm would know (if you could get a hold of them *grin*).

By the way does anyone know if it is true that unless you have your Austel
licence you cannot do computer cabling as with the Internet this means that
your system becomes part of Telstra's network ??? Apparently a cabler told
me that I could be up for an $80,000 fine under the legislation because I
ran some utp through a cabling duct in the wall.

I think the licensing is more from a safety aspect than anything else, but I
am a bit peeved at the whole network scenario.  Since when did Telstra
control the Internet ????

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*grin*


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-plug at linux.org.au [mailto:owner-plug at linux.org.au]On Behalf
> Of John Brine
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 8:53 AM
> To: 'plug at linux.org.au'
> Subject: RE: [plug] Telstra CLI/CID Question
>
>
> Is it not possible that the hardware at the receiving end formats the
> number?  That would be logical, and would mean that Telstra is not "wrong"
> as far as the ITU standards are concerned.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> John
>
> John Breen
> Programmer
> United Construction Pty Ltd
>
> (08) 9499-0472
> 0413-462-818
> john.breen at unitedconstruction.com.au
>
>
>
>
> 	-----Original Message-----
> 	From:	Garth Atkinson [SMTP:garth at cclinic.com.au]
> 	Sent:	Wednesday, August 11, 1999 11:13 PM
> 	To:	plug at linux.org.au
> 	Subject:	Re: [plug] Telstra CLI/CID Question
>
> 	Mike Holland wrote:
> 	>
> 	> On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, John Summerfield wrote:
> 	>
> 	> > > > I believe cli is sent using dtmf tones and there is no tone
> for a
> 	>
> 	> No, it includes text.
> 	>
> 	> > > using 300 Baud FSK.
> 	>
> 	> That rings a bell.
> 	>
> 	> > it also means an answered call & so is charged.
> 	>
> 	> No, no 'answer' is needed. The modem gets the data without going
> 	> "offhook", so officially no "call completion". You can test this
> using a
> 	> mobile phone.
> 	>
> 	> Mike Holland <mike at golden.wattle.id.au>            Perth,
> Australia.
> 	>                           --==--
> 	>         Many are cold, but few are frozen.
> 	Spot on Mike.
>
> 	Mgetty (after some modification to the source code) will not answer
> the
> 	call (take modem off hook) if the caller's number is not 'allowed'
> (see
> 	/etc/mgetty+sendfax/dialin.config). For what its worth without this
> 	thread getting too muddy, I think telstra does things differently
> from
> 	other telcos around the world.  Given a caller ID of 0894445555 I
> think
> 	telstra insert white spaces betweem caller area code (eg 08) and
> number1
> 	(eg 9444) and number2 (eg 5555). As I said earlier it appears that
> other
> 	telcos dont do this. Other telcos seem to concatenate the number so
> 	there are no 'white spaces' seperating any part of the number (which
> is
> 	a good idea I think).
>
> 	If I am right then telstra is VERY wrong for doing this. Just what
> 	software developers want, yet another exception to be handled.
>
> 	Garth
>
>