[plug] This Mailing list

Anthony J. Breeds-Taurima tony at cantech.net.au
Fri Jan 28 09:22:55 WST 2000


On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, John Summerfield wrote:

> > On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Christian wrote:
> > 
> > > John Summerfield wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Highly improbable; if sendmail were that bad, nobody at all would use it.
> > > > However, sendmail is, if not the most-used MTA, then close to it. Plug's
> > > > list is hardly a high-activity one.
> > > 
> > > I've heard it often repeated that sendmail doesn't work well with large
> > > lists. 
> > 
> > I think it boils down the the fact that sendmail is optimised for "normal"
> > email patterns (ie one recipient per message) which is why it may not be 
> > as fast handling large mailing lists as QMail might be, which I'm told
> > is optimised for large numbers of recipients per message.
> 
> If there are two or more recipients at a single destination (including, I 
> think, mx host) for a message, sendmail sends it once.

Acutually if the "list" is managed via a ":include:<file>" syntax in an
aliases file (the way majordomo does it)
---
XXX:                    "|/usr/lib/majordomo/wrapper resend -l XXX XXX-list"
XXX-list:               :include:/var/lib/majordomo/lists/XXX
---
Sendmail sends the message to one reciepient at a time ... waits for each
message to be accepted for delivery (or return an error) and then moves onto
the next reciepient.

<Snip>
Jan 28 08:50:27 pandora sendmail[6544]: IAA06544
Jan 28 08:50:28 pandora sendmail[6544]: IAA06544
Jan 28 08:50:28 pandora sendmail[6546]: IAA06544
Jan 28 08:51:43 pandora sendmail[6546]: IAA06544
Jan 28 08:51:57 pandora sendmail[6546]: IAA06544
Jan 28 08:52:04 pandora sendmail[6546]: IAA06544
Jan 28 08:52:04 pandora sendmail[6546]: IAA06544
Jan 28 08:52:53 pandora sendmail[6546]: IAA06544
Jan 28 08:53:26 pandora sendmail[6546]: IAA06544
Jan 28 08:53:27 pandora sendmail[6546]: IAA06544
</Snip>

As you can see the last person on the list was mailed 3 mins after the message
was recieved by the mailserver.

I can't show you the addresses, BUT you can take my word that serveral of the 
list members are on the same host (infact 2 list members are on the same
machine as the mailserver itself)

Anyway .... I don't want to get caught in the middle of a religeous war, One
you and Christian have ahd before)  I just wanted to show that Matt's view on
sendmail and lists was, seemingly correct.

Yours Tony.




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