[plug] The same old argument RH vs. Whatever

[James Bromberger]

On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 09:08:09AM +0800, Simon Scott wrote:
> 	The bad things about Debian - it can be a little confusing at first,
> esp if you come from a RH/RPM background. Some of the packages arent the
> absolute newest (obviously security risks take precendence). But once you
> install you have a *really* bare linux setup and can apt-get to your hearts
> content to install what you want. Dont use dselect tho, it blows.


Well, stable does seem to date a little, but the new DPL (and most 
pakcage maintainers) admit this, and they are hoping to decrease the 
release timecycle. Thus, there is now a 'testing'version, which trails 
unstable by abuot two weeks. Any packages that have bugs filed within 
two weeks don't migrate to unstable. Those that are clean go through.

As to unstable, I saw today that samba 2.2.0 has a package in Debian. 
That would make it less than 24 hours before it was available. I havent 
installed it yet (I track unstable at home on three machines), so 
I cant cnofirm that it is good, but I would say that the maintainer 
has probably packaged all of the alphas and has most problems sorted.

And dselect does blow. I used it once. Once. Dpkg, and apt. All you need.

Debian is also looking at further hardening its install, in view of how 
well some of the BSD systems install into a minimal configuration.


> 	Oh, this raises an interesting question for everyone: I use
> rp-pppoe, and supposedly the newest version has major bug fixes as well as
> the ability to negotiate MTU values with clients (so you dont have to set
> the MTU on every client - hard on a G4 :). But the version on the Debian
> servers is the older version. I actually spoke to the package maintainer
> about it, and he sent me the newest deb.... but how do I apt-get install a
> package sitting in my home dir?


I have pppoe installed on unstable with this feature in use. Sweeet.


Of course, I could be a bit one-eyed here....

  James
  Debian Package Maintainer, libapache-mod-backhand.


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 James Bromberger <james_AT_rcpt.to> www.rcpt.to/~james

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