[plug] isp

[Nathan Alberti]

> I really hate it how ISPs charge you outrageous amounts for things that
don't
> cost them a cent like:

This is not entirely true...

I agree that the things you mention are usually more expensive than they
should be but they also consume resources. All the things you mention
require some sort of additional configuration which equates to engineering
time (among other things), some of them also mean the need for scaling of
equipment to provide the services to all users.

WAIX traffic is not free, although it is very cheap. The upkeep of this
equipment is also minimal (or at least it should be) so you would think that
it should not be included in monthly totals...this is assuming they are able
to differentiate between this and other traffic at the point of billing.

Nathan.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Jones" <ajones at clear.net.nz>
To: <plug at plug.linux.org.au>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: [plug] isp


> When I talked to them a couple of months back they told me that they
charge
> for everything which you receive. They told me that transmits are free
>
> 3GB a month is starting to get a bit more reasonable though.  500MB a
month
> is a joke.  At least you can download a set of CD images if you start at
the
> end of one month and finish at the start of the next.
>
> I really hate it how ISPs charge you outrageous amounts for things that
don't
> cost them a cent like:
>
> 1. Mailboxes.
> 2. Domain hosting (when you have already registered your domain and want
> www.mydomain.com instead of members.iinet.net.au/~mydomain)
> 3. Stuff you download from their local servers.
> 4. A static IP address (over a dynamic one)
>
> They are basically charging you for these things because they've got the
> power to deny you these things. I understand that WAIX traffic is yet
another
> thing that they don't pay for but users do.
>
> Anthony
>
> On Wednesday 19 December 2001 21:03, Ben Jensz wrote:
> > iiNet are charging WAIX traffic into that as well aren't they?
> >
> >
> > / Ben
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Anthony Jones [mailto:ajones at clear.net.nz]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2001 9:01 PM
> > To: plug at plug.linux.org.au
> > Subject: Re: [plug] isp
> >
> > If you want ADSL then iinet are now offering an account with dynamic IP
> > and
> > 3GB per month (1GB peak, 2GB midnight-7am) for $80 per month or so. It
> > requires a 12 month contract though. It might be worth a look given that
> >
> > dialup is quite costly here.
> >
> > Anthony
> >
> > On Wednesday 19 December 2001 17:25, Wayne Vovil wrote:
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I hope this is not too much off topic; but I am looking for a
> >
> > replacement
> >
> > > for my present isp (Telstra Bigpuddle).
> > >
> > > I run Linux; but my family are the dark side of the force and use
> >
> > Windoze.
> >
> > > So I need to have multiple email addresses - they get their email on
> > > Outlook and I get mine (currently using a web mail client). I don't
> >
> > want
> >
> > > their mail on my machine, nor mine on outlook.
> > >
> > > I would like a large download limit if not unlimited (sometimes I
> >
> > download
> >
> > > 300mb+ and at others 0, it fluctuates).
> > >
> > > I also have a full domain to host and would like to have everything
> > > provided by one isp if possible.
> > >
> > > I also would like it if they provided ZOPE / PHP / MySQL or Postgress
> >
> > /
> >
> > > python support in their web hosting.
> > >
> > > Oh and a free Million dollars as well (lol)....
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Wayne
> > >
> > >
> > >
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