[plug] iinet and spam

[Glen Lewis]

On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Adrian Woodley wrote:

Question: One of my engineers suggested a product whereby we would
provide a IPSec or PPTP tunnel to a fixed IP address for both iiNet and
other ISP clients.  The tunnel would cost around $10/month per IP address,
and we would charge usual bandwidth fees.  The _real_ benefit of this is
for Linux users who could create a permanent tunnel to the server and have
a fixed IP address for the purpose of getting email, etc - i.e.: an A
record.
 
You could then set up your routing table to push all your usual traffic
down your "unlimited dialup link" and have the fixed IP address there just
looking after your email.  This may be particularly useful for Bigpond
ADSL customers, whereby Telstra charges huge amounts for fixed IP's and
the like.
 
Do you think people would be interested in such a product?
 
Glen

> I've been with IINet for about 4 years (started with Wantree before they 
> "merged") and they don't have much spam come through, however this is 
> changing. I have noticed a slight increase in spam, but nothing a rude 
> letter and the threat of bouncing the email back from every mail server 
> I administer can't handle :)
> What I am impressed with IINet mail system is how it handles other 
> domains a use rmay have registered. I own the Diskworld.com.au domain, 
> but don't have a static IP to attatch it to. They offer a service where 
> the mail server for diskworld is mail.iinet.net.au and it is then 
> delivered to port 25 on my mail server, which has a dynamic IP, when I 
> check my iinet email account. Thus I can maintain my own mail server 
> without having to fork out for a static IP.
> This is a much nicer service than others I've seen that use fetchmail.
> 
> I'd still like a static IP though :)
> 
> Adrian
> 
> Daniel wrote:
> 
> > Hi Plug, I wrote just now about Tagged Message Delivery Agent as a 
> > possible solution to spam. (http://software.libertine.org/tmda/ )
> > I forgot to mention that I asked support at iinet if they would help - 
> > this is their reply:
> >
> > "If you wish to install TMDA on your machine and use it as a mail 
> > server iiNet
> > has no problems with this.  However we do not have it installed on our 
> > mail
> > server and their is no plans to install this application at this point 
> > and time."
> >
> > Surely if I had a permanent connection with a fixed ip running a mail 
> > server I might not need or want their e-mail service at all.
> >
> > Would I be wrong in thinking that besides stopping their systems being 
> > used for mail relay - they have no concerns about users receiving spam 
> > and if pressed would probably just suggest the deletion method, or am 
> > I jumping to conclusions?
> >
> > Wouldn't all ISPs benefit from reduced mail traffic and happier users 
> > if they had something like tmda to bounce back unwanted e-mails?
> > Isn't there a commercial benefit in it for them?  What am I missing?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Daniel.
> >
> >
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