[plug] WASP?

[Matt Kemner]

On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Bret Busby wrote:

> Where did I slander WASP? I did not make any statements about WASP, that
> were, as far as I am aware, untrue.

"Has someone hacked WASP?"

That's pretty strong language to me, and completely unsuited to this list.

> I note that I am the only subscriber to this list, that has had this
> response to a message relating to an ISP, even though other subscribers
> have repeatedly condemned ISPs' on this list.

And I am hereby making it publically known that I am putting a stop to it
here.  The S/N ration on this list is degrading by the minute, and we have
already lost some very smart (and helpful) people because of that.

> Does that mean that we will have no more comments about Microsoft, and,
> all the other rubbish that we have had on this list, that is irrelevant
> to Linux, or, does this just apply to me?

Jokes and light banter I don't have a problem with.. After all, this is
supposed to be a "community" - the day this list becomes nothing more than
a boring "question and answer forum" is the day I leave.  I do have a
problem with people potentially damaging other people's business without a
good reason.

> I also note that, while the people at WASP read the mailing list
> messages,

"the people at WASP" don't read this mailing list.
_I_ read this mailing list, and I contacted WASP in an effort to find out
what is going on.

> my call was not acknowledged by WASP

So take it up with WASP - nobody on this list can fix that for you.

> I also note, regarding your comments that I should have done the
> research; given that this is a Linux mailing list, information has come
> out of this, that has increased my knowledge of the workings, which, I
> understand, is the purpose of the list.

Bret, if you had asked a question such as:

"I just received this message when I tried to send an email. Does this
 mean there are problems with my ISP's mailserver or with the remote end?"

you would have received a totally different response, from many people on
this list.

> It appears to me, that, given that, in the past, you, yourself, have
> explicitly stated that this list will not be subject to moderation

That was many years ago Bret, things have changed. I have realised that
this is not a perfect world, and that to preserve everyone's sanity, some
rules need to be set.

> If WASP did not want resolution, there was not much
> that I could do about that.

Again, take it up with WASP.  This is not an appropriate forum.

> I also expected, that, as list administrator, if there was a problem
> specific to my conduct on the list, that you would have taken it up with
> me, personally, by direct contact, rather than in the public domain of the
> mailing list.

I responded to the list to make it clear that these sorts of comments are
not welcome. I do NOT wish to drag this out into a long on-list debate
because again, it is not suited to this list.

 - Matt