[plug] [OT] linmagau got slashdotted!

[William Kenworthy]

The gentoo irc settled down less than 24 hours.  Census seemed to be as
gentoo hadnt had a few weeks of optimisation by dedicated experts the
test was unfair, so lets ignore it.  Debian doesn't have a monopoly on
zealots!

The 1.4 release hooha is really more a sales pitch to attract attention
than a meaningful, major jump.   One of the major differences between
gentoo and binary distros is versioning doesnt make sence except from a
administrative point of view.  The difference between 1.4 and and a
running gentoo systems is more a state of mind than a real checkpoint. 
In fact, the only difference I can see is the installCD.  

Its hard to understand when you are used to big bumps in functionality
when a version changes, but with gentoo your at the version the portage
was in when you did the last update, and its only a minor difference of
a few packages between yesterday and today, that is stable installed as
1.2, kept up to date and stable 1.4 installed today.  In short, its a
very minor administrative number, but a big thing in peoples minds.

e.g, my last update (to a 1.2 installed machine) was a few days ago
(before 1.4), and this is the list this morning:
I have been ignoring apache2 for a while now (like to leave "sensitive"
packages a while so bugs get worked out - php and mysql have already
been prepared for the move), a minor update to the mozilla install is
there, it wants to downgrade to the stable gnumeric and so on
[ebuild    U ] net-www/apache-1.3.28 [2.0.47]
[ebuild    U ] net-www/mod_ssl-2.8.15 [2.8.14]
[ebuild    U ] net-www/mozilla-1.4-r3 [1.4-r2]
[ebuild    U ] app-games/atanks-0.9.8g [0.9.8d]
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/groff-1.18.1-r3 [1.18.1-r2]
[ebuild    U ] app-admin/mirrorselect-0.6 [0.5]
[ebuild    U ] sys-devel/patch-2.5.9 [2.5.4-r5]
[ebuild    U ] sys-apps/psmisc-21.2-r3 [21.2-r2]
[ebuild    UD] gnome-extra/libgda-0.2.96-r2 [0.12.1]
[ebuild    UD] app-office/gnumeric-1.0.12 [1.1.19]
[ebuild    U ] net-analyzer/nmap-3.30 [3.27-r1]

I am also starting to feel just as lonely as when I moved from Redhat
5.2 to the then revolutionary, it will eat your data/hardware/dog
Mandrake 6.0!  The poll and emails direct to me and the list are mostly
D (would like to try it) with 1 C (hate it!) on the webpoll, and 1 C
email (dupe?) and an F (too busy!) 

Is no-one else actually using Gentoo?

BillK

On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 01:24, Kimberly Shelt wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 07:12:12PM +0800, Scott Middleton wrote:
> <snips a bit>
> > > 
> > Nobody set out to sabotage Gentoo and Bill did the best job he knew with
> > the information readily available. We announced the idea a couple of
> > weeks before and quite frankly we were surprised by the lack of interest
> > we got from the Gentoo users. We didn't think there were that many of
> > them. I hope the next test will be considered fair and maybe we will get
> > more feedback *before* we do the tests.
> 
> So far the feedback has been pretty ok.. some good level headed suggestions
> I think between Indy and Bill they are compling a next issue response etc..
> 
> The site is finally slowing down.. however the story itself really did
> get hit a lot.. 30k plus.. and I have seen a lot of other forums 
> discussing the issue.. 
> 
> Terrific(albeit dumb luck) timing on our behalf.. 
> ie  "new" Gentoo out now 
> Details on the PLUG site :)
> > 
> > I hope to convince Xtreme to lend one computer and three HDD. That way i
> > can lend a HDD to Bill to do the optimisations a couple of weeks before.
> > The computer I was discussing with Andrew @ Xtreme is a Hyper-Threaded
> > P4 with an Intel entry server board and 512 MB DDR. Otherwise we will
> > use one of ours.
> 
> This sounds great..when can we do it again ?
> 
> We also got some feedback about doing other distros ?. Whilst this is 
> perhaps not the time.. we(LinMagAu) really would love to do more of this
> kind of thing.. and RH/Mandrake/Suse/BSD folks hanging about that
> might like to have a go ?
> 
> Kim
> --
> http.//www.linmagau.org
> Done the survey yet ?..  WA is sadly lagging in the numbers.. :(
-- 
William Kenworthy <billk at iinet.net.au>