[plug] IPV6

paul parisse at iprimus.com.au
Sat Aug 21 10:02:46 WST 2004


Great reply, thanks

I have been wondering when tech support staff will need to understand the
implementation of ipv6 and their related protocols and addressing types
(unicast, multicast and any cast) only from the point of view of educating
and training new junior admins. (all comments welcome)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Ringer" <craig at postnewspapers.com.au>
To: <plug at plug.linux.org.au>
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [plug] How to add static route?


> paul wrote:
> > What do you guys think the current time frame is for the implementation
of
> > ipv6.
>
> When you set it up and start using it. With 6to4, the chicken-and-egg
> problem seems to be gone. Isolated IPv6 networks can communicate
> transparently over IPv4 with no special per-peer configuration.
> Everybody enables 6to4 once, and it's done. As far as I can tell, IPv6
> will be widely implemented when people start using it, and they can do
> that now.
>
> If you want native connectivity, I think the first step is probably to
> set up 6to4 then start talking to your ISP about their running a 6to4
> gateway and getting connected to the IPv6 native internet. In the mean
> time you can use the 192.88.99.1 multicast address as a default route
> for 6to4 and it'll find the nearest public 6to4-to-native gateway. You
> can also use a tunnel service provider like freenet if you like. I
> haven't found the need so far.
>
> I'd be surprised if ISPs became interested in offering IPv6 directly to
> user endpoints any time soon - the upgrades to support it would probably
> be rather expensive, and using 6to4 over the last hop is no big deal
> anyway. Setting up a 6to4-to-native gateway on their network might not
> be so much fuss though (and they could always tunnel out if their
> upstream didn't route IPv6 natively).
>
> I've spoken to my ISP (WestNet) a couple of times about IPv6, but
> they've given the usual (and sensible, really) response "when the demand
> is there." Demand won't exist until it's /really/ useful, and that means
> more people using it.
>
> So help create the demand ;-)
>
> > I have read on the cisco site that 2010 is the final implementation
> > date.
>
> Hmm. Final in what sense? Everybody will have IPv6 internet
> connectivity? (they do now, using 6to4, unless they're behind an
> unpleasant firewall). Eveybody will have _native_ IPv6 internet
> connectivity? Some people will be using IPv6-only internet addresses?
> The internet will be using only IPv6? Eveybody will be using IPv6-only
> addreses even on their LANs, too?
>
> There are many possible meanings of 'final implementation'. The one I
> expect Cisco probably means is 'the majority of core Internet backbones
> and providers will support native IPv6 routing.' Or, 'The majority of
> major providers will have bought new, expensive routers from us.'
>
> --
> Craig Ringer
>
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