E-mail discarded [was: Re: [plug] emails rejected]

[Russ Powers]

On Sun, 2004-10-10 at 18:03 +0800, James Devenish wrote:
> In article <20041010095302.6338.41614 at shameless.plug.org.au>, Russ Powers wrote:
> > After I fixed it, I was testing to make sure nothing broke. That's when
> > I found that my yahoo account wasn't accepting mail from my server with
> > the powerstech reply address. The other accounts work. I assume yahoo is
> > doing a reverse dns lookup and sees my host isn't powerstech so dumps
> > the mail.
> 
> Can you clarify:
>  - If you send e-mail from your iiNet dialup account using the address
>    russ at powerstech.com, it never arrives at Yahoo.
>  - If you send e-mail from your iiNet dialup account using the address
>    yourname at iinet.net.au, it is delivered successfully at Yahoo.

I have a static IP (with iinet) and I have exim4 set up on my server to
handle all the mail for my lan. I handle the mail for one of my domains,
gdw.com.au, also on my server (that's what all the questions last month
about dns servers was about). So when I send mail from my pc on the lan,
I use exim on the server to send the mail directly to the destination. I
don't use iinet's mail for that.

I use my iinet account (that comes with the static ip) and my yahoo
account to test my domain and my exim setup.

When I send from my desktop to iinet, it works. And when I send from my
desktop to plug, it works. But when I send to my yahoo account, nothing.

Everything else works fine. I can send mail from my desktop using my
gdw.com.au email address or another domain I have (which is hosted by
iinet) and it gets through to iinet and yahoo. It's just powerstech.com
to yahoo that vanishes. It always used to work (sometimes it ended up
being flagged as spam in put in the bulk folder). Now I see nothing. 

I can understand them rejecting it, what with the amount of spam they
must see. But it worries me that I have no notification.


> > I don't get any warning or notification. Is there a way around this
> > or at least a way of being alerted that the mail isn't getting to its
> > destination?
> 
> Ideally, mail servers shouldn't silently delete mail before it arrives
> at its destination (although it could very validly be silently deleted
> once it reaches its destination). That is, no mail should be silently
> deleted by Yahoo unless *you* choose to have it automatically deleted at
> the point when it arrives in your Yahoo mailbox. Unfortunately, in these
> days of mass e-mail worms and spam, there is a need to suppress a lot of
> mail. There is basically no universal or reliable way for you to know
> that your messages have disappeared.

Yeah, I thought as much.

Thanks.
> 
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Russ Powers <russ at powerstech.com>