[plug] An OO question -- better answer

[Shayne O'Neill]

Heres my bitch with OO in three words;- "They dumped glow".

Due to boredom/whatever at OO camp, there is *STILL* no viable alternative
to outlook thats cross platform and open source (Or infeasibly loopy to
install on windows & Os/X).

ANd for that matter Os/X support still sucks.

--
Freedom's just another word for something new to regulate

On Sun, 17 Jul 2005, William Kenworthy wrote:

> Unfortunately OO doesnt rule in this case.  From memory, in PPT its just
> click a couple of checkboxes, in OO you have the choice of a number of
> labour intensive, non-obvious, undocumented hacks to produce the same
> thing ...
>
> OO does have some real advantages in many things, and impress is
> impressive, but PPT still has the edge, especially in ease of use.  I
> use OO almost exclusively, but I have to deal with non-microsoft users
> daily, and I think OO should put some work into the simple things that
> help with user satisfaction - things like:
>
> : the handout thing - its just so clumsy in comparison with PPT
> : impress loses slide names on imported PPTs (I have a long running bug
> in on this one, and after the effort I went to to convince the dev
> involved that it was a bug, and the problem was in OO, not PPT - sending
> file dumps showing the embedded data that OO loses etc - then to just
> have it listed as "future" doesnt give one any confidence they are
> listening to the user base.)
> : calc having a 32000 row limit
> : crappy macro language and macro documentation, tho thats improving all
> the time.
> : and my all time hate - the way the style function is implemented
> : page numbering when you are trying to do simple things like turn off
> the page number on the first page only.  This is tied up with style and
> again is not an obvious way to do things.
> : styles - they dont work reliably.  Click the wrong thing and some
> (only some!) parts of a document will change.  Undo doesnt undo them,
> you have to laboriously restyle it.
>
> I sometimes still find myself wishing for wordperfect 5.1, it was easier
> to get a well formatted document exactly how I wanted it 15 years ago
> than today when I have to wrestle with OO's style function - MSword is
> no better either.
>
> I have used OO since StarOffice 4.0 days, and while its great its a very
> long way from perfect ... and having to deal with MSoffice users all the
> time, makes that clear!  The plus side is stability, builtin pdf export,
> some functions that MSoffice doesnt have etc - its the ease of use part
> that I keep running into.
>
> BillK
>
> On Sun, 2005-07-17 at 09:37 +0800, Leon Brooks wrote:
> > On Friday 15 July 2005 16:33, W.Kenworthy wrote:
> > > I created a single slide with the lines, then just copied it to every
> > > second slide position.  Only took a few minutes (~89 slides), but
> > > next time I'll macro it.  Not as neat as, or as low an overhead
> > > solution as PPT uses, but its works.
> >
> > Meh! You're all too used to only being able to do stuff in one hardwired
> > way. Waaaake uuuuuup! <slap> (-:
> >
> > View => Workspace => Handout
> >
> > Drag the pictures to where you want them to be on every page.
> >
> > Click the text (T) icon on the toolbox, drag a suitable lined area,
> > release.
> >
> > Click in the lined are, hit Tab.
> >
> > Format => Paragraph => Tabs. Delete All. Choose a size to match the
> > ruler (in my case 9.2cm), an alignment (I chose Right) and dotting.
> > New. Close that.
> >
> > Select all (Ctrl-A), Copy, right-arrow, pastety-paste-paste until the
> > lined area is the correct size.
> >
> > Make sure "Handouts" are check/on in File => Print, Options. Print.
> >
> > Done.
> >
> > If you prefer, you can arrange the slides left-right-left. You can have
> > as many slides as you like on every page, plus decorations. There are
> > many other possibilities.
> >
> > PowerPoint sucks. Impress Roolz<*>. Remember that. (-:
> >
> > Cheers; Leon
> >
> >
> > * except, AFAICT, for the matter of video clips; expect that to
> >   be thoroughly cured sometime in v2.
> > --
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> >
> --
> William Kenworthy <billk at iinet.net.au>
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