OMG. This stuff is _awfully_ impressive! http://cto.secs.oakland.edu/~castro/NLD10video/ In particular MVI_1951_bis.AVI and MVI_1952_bis.AVI impressed the hell out of me As far as I can tell they're promising this to be released this year! -- www.modmeup.net Ubuntu Breezy 5.10 The less you know, the more you believe. - Bono