[plug] re: virualisation

[Paul Antoine]

I imagine that for financial apps you may find Crossover both sufficient 
and faster.  I've had a lot of success running M$ Excel etc. in addition 
to a range of electronics CAD tools I use under Crossover. Photoshop 
reportedly runs ok under Crossover too, especially if as you say you're 
just using it for small editing jobs.

This removes the need for a Win XP license (saves some $$s), and as an 
added bonus you can cut and paste between linux and windows apps.

Thought you'd like to know all the options :-)

BTW: I run the Win apps under Crossover/Ubuntu on an old IBM T30 laptop 
with 512MB of memory and a crappy P4M CPU running at 1.8Ghz. I can't run 
Xen and I don't dare contemplate just how slow VMWare would be on this 
hardware.

Paul

Jon Miller wrote:
> Thanks for that.  As I was told I could do it with what I have (duo core
> cpu,, 4gb ram, 2 x 500gb sata hdd, sata dvd writer).  Since I had plan on
> using Xen from Suse DT, I only needed XP to handle financial apps I have to
> have.  It will have photoshop and lightroom on it, but only for small
> editing jobs.
> I was also told that I can run dual monitors with no issues (we'll see).
> One monitor will be dedicated to Linux, while the other will be dedicated to
> Windows.
> 
> 
> Regards,
>  
> Jon L. MIller
> Director
> MMT Networks Pty Ltd
> East Perth, WA 6004
>  
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: plug-bounces at plug.org.au [mailto:plug-bounces at plug.org.au] On Behalf
> Of Paul Antoine
> Sent: Monday, 27 August 2007 10:02 AM
> To: plug at plug.org.au
> Subject: Re: [plug] re: virualisation
> 
> Jon,
> 
> Virtualisation of any kind tends to strain resources more than running 
> apps under a compatibility layer like Wine or Crossover.  Depending on 
> your needs you may need 2x the memory and 2x the CPU to give yourself a 
> chance of having good performance (equivalent to one machine for each.)
> 
> I have run apps under both VMWare and Wine/Crossover and VMWare is 
> definitely more resource hungry (which stands to reason.)  If you need 
> "full" XP compatibility, then VMWare is the way you have to go. I'm not 
> sure what state Xen is in wrt XP... anyone care to comment?
> 
> Hardware specs depends on the apps you'll be running under the guest 
> operating system, in this case XP.  Running web browsers, email etc. is 
> easy enough, but heavier apps like Photoshop, or server software such as 
> SQLServer etc. will need more.
> 
> I'd bank on needing a minimum of 2GB of RAM and an Intel Core-Duo or AMD 
> X2 cpu.  Other than that, disk, network etc. can be standard unless the 
> disk i/o you'll be doing is intensive on both OS's.  In that case use RAID.
> 
> I have not played with dual monitor setups with an OS in each, but as 
> VMWare uses X-windows I'd guess it's quite likely to work.
> 
> Paul
> 
> Jon L. Miller wrote:
>> Looking at setting up a virutalisation desktop with SuSE Desktop Linux and
>> XP.  Like to know the following:
>> 1) has anyone has done it
>> 2) hardware used and specs
>> 3) dual monitors with 1 x OS per monitor.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------
>> Jon L. Miller, MCNE CNS CCNA
>> MMT Networks Pty Ltd
>> East Perth, WA 6004
>> WA, Australia
>> +61 89227 0892
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