[plug] Failing disk drive

[Fred Janon]

Nope, the stats are stored in the drive by the drive firmware. Some are
resettable by commands and some aren't if I remember correctly. The
issue is that there is no real 100% standard for SMART and you need the
manufacturer tools for the specific drives most likely.

Fred

--- Richard Meyer <meyerri at westnet.com.au> wrote:

> They were both moved out of a system that was mysteriously locking up
> solid, so I wasn't too surprised when I got the first message,
> because
> there had been "relay" noises coming from the machine all day, but
> after
> moving the data to the second drive (and the relay sounds went away).
> Getting the same message 2 days later seemed an unlikely coincidence.
> 
> I did play with Smartctl, but the numbers don't mean terribly much to
> me, unfortunately.
> 
> I think I'll try new cables. Will a new set of cables "magically"
> reset
> the SMART stats?
> 
> Thanks
> RM
> 
> On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 18:48 -0700, Fred Janon wrote:
> > Or cables...
> > 
> > --- Denis Brown <dsbrown at cyllene.uwa.edu.au> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello Richard.
> > > 
> > > I suspect this is too simplistic an answer but smartctl is the
> tool
> > > to 
> > > use.   smartctl --help for example or this 
> > > page:    http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/man/smartctl.8.html
> > > 
> > > As to simultaneous drive failure...  Possible I guess (bad batch)
> but
> > > I 
> > > would probably be looking for more of a common factor such as
> power
> > > supply 
> > > or cooling.  ???
> > > 
> > > HTH,
> > > Denis
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   At 09:11 PM 14/04/2008, you wrote:
> > > >Hi all,
> > > >
> > > >I've been having fun with my system hanging, and so just to get
> it
> > > over
> > > >with, I bought a new motherboard and memory and installed the
> old
> > > disk
> > > >drives.
> > > >
> > > >Now I' getting the following:
> > > > > Apr 14 21:04:36 Selous smartd[4162]: Device: /dev/sda, FAILED
> > > SMART 
> > > > self-check. BACK UP DATA NOW!
> > > > > Apr 14 21:04:36 Selous smartd[4162]: Device: /dev/sdb, FAILED
> > > SMART 
> > > > self-check. BACK UP DATA NOW!
> > > > > Apr 14 21:04:36 Selous smartd[4162]: Device: /dev/sdb, SMART
> > > Prefailure 
> > > > Attribute: 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct changed from 137 to 135
> > > > > Apr 14 21:04:36 Selous smartd[4162]: Device: /dev/sdb, SMART
> > > Usage 
> > > > Attribute: 196 Reallocated_Event_Count changed from 93 to 90
> > > >
> > > >How do I see the SMART stats, and how likely is it that 2 disks
> > > would
> > > >fail "at the same time"? OK, sda failed a couple of days ago,
> and I
> > > >moved the data off of it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >Richard Meyer
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> > > >It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
> > > >William Pitt, 1783
> > > >
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> William Pitt, 1783
> 
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