[plug] Ubuntu on older 8.04 on older machines

[Richard Meyer]

Dammit I hate this ... but WTF,

Please explain how you equate Debian's package management to Red Hat's
RPMs. (I was trying to find equivalents, but it was like comparing the
manufacture of chamber pots to the mechanisms for removing the offending
vessel from the royal bed-chamber). They are different things for
goodness sake.

Debian uses *.deb packages - Red Hat and others use *.rpm packages.
Neither is "easier" or "harder" to install with the right tools - if you
are talking about "synaptic" being easier than "yum", you might well be
right, but their are MANY package managers that accommodate RPM
packages, including Smart, Synaptic (see above), Yast and others.

I appreciate that you have your own ideas, please formulate them so that
you are comparing Intels with Intels (or even AMDs).

I s'pose I'm getting overwrought for no real good reason, but I hate to
see the foggy thinking that allows one to write about Debian's package
management and compare it to a rival's package.  NOT THE SAME THING.

Again - it's Sunday night, and I've had a long day of wine and
cavorting ....

On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 19:07 +0800, Kai wrote:
> Hi Blake,
> 
> I followed the link given by Keith and 17% through downloading the i386 
> iso now.
> 
> Don't need a gui, but figured I may as well have a look at it, see how 
> well it performs on this old Presario 2200 laptop which got handed to me 
> yesterday with no documentation and no disks - just the laptop and carry 
> bag. Previous owners didn't want it 'cause it "didn't work", it was full 
> of malware, errors and crap. I reinstalled it with eXPensive and that 
> works fine so I'll give Ubuntu a go and see how it performs :)
> 
> That and the old PIII 600 desktop form factor machine I have sitting 
> here with Fedora 4 on it, wanna wipe that and install with Ubuntu since 
> I find Debian's package management to be so much easier than Fedora/Red 
> Hat RPM's
> 
> Cheers
> Kai
> 
> Blake Munro wrote:
> > Hey Kai,
> > 
> > Yep - use the alternate ISO that you can download. It is fully text 
> > based and will work a charm.
> > If you don't need a GUI, then go for the server version :)
> > 
> > Cheers
> > Blake
> > 
> > 2008/8/3 Keith Bawden <keith at bawdo.com <mailto:keith at bawdo.com>>
> > 
> >     On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 18:36, Kai <vk6ksj at westnet.com.au
> >     <mailto:vk6ksj at westnet.com.au>> wrote:
> >      > How are we all ? enjoying the cold, windy days down in Perth,
> > 
> >     Nope I'm in balmy Tokyo :-)
> > 
> >      > Is there a text only mode or something which I haven't figured out,
> > 
> >     A little googling suggest you need the "alternate install CD"
> > 
> >     http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu-releases/8.04.1/
> > 
> >      > If Ubuntu isn't recommended for older machines I'm all ears for any
> >      > feedback.
> > 
> >     Will this be a desktop machine? If so then I don't think your choice
> >     of distro will be as limiting a factor as your choice of window
> >     manager. Maybe something like xfce, wmaker or my personal choice wmii.
> > 
> >     Regards, Keith
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Richard Meyer
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