Please note the ? - I don't _know_ if there is a correlation, I'm just raising a point of interest ;-) http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=77&ContentID=112649 (beware the line wrap) Not a birthday present I was expecting, but the irony isn't lost on me Cheers -- Chris Wake SAGENET Consulting sagenet at sagenet.net.au