with the CS/IS programmes at Murdoch. For memory, Murdoch consistently has one of the highest rates of graduate satisfaction in Australia, although that obviously isn't IT specific. Honestly, I personally think the material that makes up the CS degree at Murdoch is actually pretty good. The failings tend to be more in the execution. -- DSA 0x0EC1D28C: BBCB 0D79 4EBB 078A A066 7267 8BED E9D6 0EC1 D28C