[plug] Mini Linux Web Server

Damon Perry talk at damonperry.id.au
Tue Mar 23 19:48:55 AWST 2021


Altronics:
$144 Raspi4 8GB
$60  250GB SSD
$40  Case
$20  PSU
$6     SD
TOTAL: $270

You need an SSD, friends don't let friends run wordpress on an SD card.
--
  Damon Perry
  talk at damonperry.id.au



On Tue, 23 Mar 2021, at 17:32, Benjamin wrote:
> Intel Celery processors are bad value long term and lack substantial nutrition.
> 
> On Tue, 23 Mar 2021, 17:31 Benjamin, <zorlin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Good god how much are you paying for your Pis?
>> 
>> $120 from a reputable vendor, plus $6 for a decent SD card, $30 for a damn nice case, $10 for PSU.
>> 
>> On Tue, 23 Mar 2021, 17:02 Damon Perry, <talk at damonperry.id.au> wrote:
>>> __
>>> I disagree with your pricing estimates.
>>> 
>>> raspi4 8GB, case, SSD&SD, PSU = ~$270
>>> NUC Celeron , 8GB, & SSD          = ~$330
>>> Choosing the pi saves you $60, not $400.
>>> 
>>> The NUC will be more powerful as well:
>>> https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-raspberry_pi_4_b_broadcom_bcm2711-1796-vs-intel_celeron_j4005-840
>>> 
>>> You're getting a very nice NUC for $500-600
>>> --
>>>   Damon Perry
>>>   talk at damonperry.id.au
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 23 Mar 2021, at 13:38, Byron Hammond wrote:
>>>> This partly depends on your budget.
>>>> 
>>>> If you don't mind sacrificing performance, a cheap option would be the raspberry pi. You might pay 100$ for that, a case and power supply.
>>>> 
>>>> If you are happy to spend a little bit more (maybe around 500-600), as Damon suggested an Intel NUC are also good. Maybe you could claim this as a deduction against your tax.
>>>> 
>>>> The good thing about both of them is that they are small and low power.
>>>> 
>>>> from my mobile
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, 23 Mar 2021, 12:40 pm Damon Perry, <talk at damonperry.id.au> wrote:
>>>>> __
>>>>> If you assume the two websites he linked in the footer are what he wants then his requirements are 2 wordpress sites.
>>>>> 
>>>>> A NUC would probably be the most appropriate choice before going for more exotic or custom built options.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>>   Damon Perry
>>>>>   talk at damonperry.id.au
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, 23 Mar 2021, at 08:16, Benjamin wrote:
>>>>>> The next step up from a weak server is a Pi but it's not exactly open source. Personally I love the Chatreey AN1 but the model I love is oos for weeks :(
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Mar 2021, 07:52 Bernd Felsche, <bernie at innovative.iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 02:44:53 Jon Miller wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> > I'm looking for some advice on purchasing a mini web server that
>>>>>>> > runs Linux (as I want to run my website from home vs via a hosting
>>>>>>> > service), can I get recommendations on what's on the market and
>>>>>>> > the ease of operation.  I currently will only be running my 2
>>>>>>> > websites.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm guessing that you upstream bandwidth is no more than 100Mbps.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If pages are largely static, you can keep the server small and
>>>>>>> simple using THTTPD http://www.acme.com/software/thttpd/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Static pages mean that your web site is blindingly-fast compared to
>>>>>>> the dynamic sites that dominate the webscape.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Really small hardware (as open source as it can get) e.g.
>>>>>>> https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/Home-Server/LIME2-SERVER-NO-HDD/open-source-hardware
>>>>>>> Choose HDD/SSD from your vendor/bits bin.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you need dynamic pages - and think about that very carefully
>>>>>>> because that can also open up your site to scripting attacks - then
>>>>>>> the next step up is an entry-level, multi-core AMD beastie with
>>>>>>> giggles of RAM for cache. Stick to a feature-less mainboard - esp no
>>>>>>> WiFi and no fancy video to keep power consumption and heat low.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Whichever way you go; the web server belongs in a DMZ with your
>>>>>>> modem-firewall-router in-between also backed up by UPS so that you
>>>>>>> can keep serving pages for hours when (not if) the street goes dark.
>>>>>>> Low-end, quality UPS will cost about $100.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> /"\ Bernd Felsche - Somewhere in Western Australia
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