[plug] plug Digest, Vol 225, Issue 5
Richard Jones
bwl at vivaldi.net
Sun Apr 2 17:52:02 AWST 2023
Thanks Didi,
I've registered and look forward to it. I've been lurking on this list
for a long time and interested in meeting people but the events either
seem over my head or just don't work in terms of time and place.
Is it a good idea to bring a Debian installer on thumb drive? If so, I
usually use a minimal network one but would it be better to do one with
a working system?
All the best,
Richard
On 1/4/23 21:25, Didi Mudigdo wrote:
> Hi Richard,
>
> Definitely bring along the Teclasts so we can have a poke. I'll be
> demonstrating some easy wins (Acer, Lenovo etc.) then go through the
> problems that can happen with the not-so-easy wins (Broadcom driver,
> MacBook, soft WiFi switch stuck off etc.). At which time it would be a
> perfect opportunity to discuss your issues with the Teclasts, so that
> participants can have a taste of what is in store when they have a go.
>
> Hope to see you there!
>
> DD
>
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> 1. Re: Tapes (Brad Campbell)
> 2. Linux workshop for noobs (Didi Mudigdo)
> 3. Re: Linux workshop for noobs (Richard Jones)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2023 17:36:11 +0800
> From: Brad Campbell <brad at fnarfbargle.com <mailto:brad at fnarfbargle.com>>
> To: plug at plug.org.au <mailto:plug at plug.org.au>
> Subject: Re: [plug] Tapes
> Message-ID: <80f5d4da-ed51-dd7f-4424-6c365b231202 at fnarfbargle.com
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> On 15/3/23 13:01, Brad Campbell wrote:
> > I've started using a combination of tar and pbzip2 for
> archiving, but I'm going to have to put a cheap 2TB SSD into the box
> with the tape drive to stage to, as I can't feed it fast enough
> (seeing ~130MB/s write speeds).
> > As it's an internal drive, my biggest issue has been cooling. Lot
> of blocking case holes with gaffa tape and re-arranging fans to get
> the airflow required to keep it cool during a write.
>
> Having had a play for a week or so, I've found pigz -i compresses
> nearly as well as lbzip2 and 3 times faster. Admittedly the CPU is
> an old AMD FX-8350, so it's not exactly a screamer.
> I'm using a 996GB source directory of 28 rsync backups from various
> machines ranging from ~250M to ~590G. I tar and compress these to
> the staging drive before writing them to tape.
>
> tar through lbzip2 gets them down to 753G in 5 hours 23 minutes.
> That is limited by compression.
> tar through pigz -i gets them down to 763G in 1 hour 50 minutes.
> That's not limited by compression, rather tar reading the data from
> the "super cheap and nasty budget SSD" I chose to play with.
> I bought a Crucial MX500 for the staging/spool drive, and then I
> thought I'd try my luck with the cheapest 2TB SSD I could buy as a
> source. An SP Data A55, and it's pretty bad.
>
> I have also tested recovery of several archives by blowing holes in
> them, and the archives created with pigz -i recover as well as the
> various bzip2 incarnations.
>
> > While this is working adequately, I've ordered a proper external
> enclosure with the right cooling.
>
> I ordered an "untested" Dell external LTO-5 SAS drive on E-bay ($240
> delivered) because that was about half the price of an empty
> enclosure. I figured the drive would be a bust but I'd get a good
> external SAS enclosure out of it.
> Turns out the "untested" drive has no issues, and has done less work
> than the internal HP I bought first. By the logs it looks like
> someone bought it to read LTO3 and LTO4 tapes and it's only done
> about 50 tape reads.
>
> About time I had a win.
>
> I have a nice little script that generates an index file from the
> staging directory, then sequentially writes each tarball to tape.
> Bulk restore just reads the whole tape, or for selective I dump the
> index, mt fsf to the one I want as listed in the index, and just
> restore from there.
>
> Drive encryption works well and easy to set up using stenc. No
> issues with read/write compatibility between either drive, so looks
> like I'm off to the races.
>
> Appreciate all the pointers.
>
> Regards,
> Brad
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2023 18:06:27 +0800
> From: Didi Mudigdo <didi at didi.com.au <mailto:didi at didi.com.au>>
> To: plug at plug.org.au <mailto:plug at plug.org.au>
> Subject: [plug] Linux workshop for noobs
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> Hi there,
>
> I'll be running a 1-hour workshop 1 pm Wed 12th April @ South Perth
> Learning Centre on installing Linux on your old computer, please
> spread the
> word if you know some noobs who would be interested in this:
>
> "Don't throw out your old laptop just yet, most of the time you just
> need
> to give it an alternative operating system! Replace your Windows
> OS/Mac OS
> with Linux, a modern community-driven operating system that can run
> on very
> low hardware resources (e.g. a mere 1 GB RAM, with a 16 GB hard
> drive), and
> bring your old laptop back to life. Come to this 1-hour workshop to see
> Linux in action, rejuvenating computers up to 15 years old. If you bring
> your old laptop you can follow along as we also demonstrate step-by-step
> the process of installing Linux."
>
> Sign up:
> https://classmanager.com.au/cbin/admin.php?Action=courses&single_course_id=1927&organisation_name=splc&from=org_home <https://classmanager.com.au/cbin/admin.php?Action=courses&single_course_id=1927&organisation_name=splc&from=org_home>
>
> Thank you!
>
> Didi
>
> PS: I've installed various Linux distros on various computers since
> 2011,
> but this will be my first time running this workshop, so any
> tips/pointers
> from your experience on showing noobs how to install/use Linux will
> be most
> appreciated :)
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> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2023 18:13:27 +0800
> From: Richard Jones <bwl at vivaldi.net <mailto:bwl at vivaldi.net>>
> To: plug at plug.org.au <mailto:plug at plug.org.au>
> Subject: Re: [plug] Linux workshop for noobs
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> I've been installing linux on my gear for >20 years but I have a couple
> of things where I'm stumped (Teclast laptop and tablet). Is this
> suitable to bring along as a challenge or would that undermine the
> exercise?
>
> Richard
>
> On 30/3/23 18:06, Didi Mudigdo wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I'll be running a 1-hour workshop 1 pm Wed 12th April @ South Perth
> > Learning Centre on installing Linux on your old computer, please
> spread
> > the word if you know some noobs who would be interested in this:
> >
> > "Don't throw out your old laptop just yet, most of the time you just
> > need to give it an alternative operating system! Replace your
> Windows
> > OS/Mac OS with Linux, a modern community-driven operating system
> that
> > can run on very low hardware resources (e.g. a mere 1 GB RAM,
> with a 16
> > GB hard drive), and bring your old laptop back to life. Come to this
> > 1-hour workshop to see Linux in action, rejuvenating computers up
> to 15
> > years old. If you bring your old laptop you can follow along as
> we also
> > demonstrate step-by-step the process of installing Linux."
> >
> > Sign up:
> >
> https://classmanager.com.au/cbin/admin.php?Action=courses&single_course_id=1927&organisation_name=splc&from=org_home <https://classmanager.com.au/cbin/admin.php?Action=courses&single_course_id=1927&organisation_name=splc&from=org_home> <https://classmanager.com.au/cbin/admin.php?Action=courses&single_course_id=1927&organisation_name=splc&from=org_home <https://classmanager.com.au/cbin/admin.php?Action=courses&single_course_id=1927&organisation_name=splc&from=org_home>>
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > Didi
> >
> > PS: I've installed various Linux distros on various computers since
> > 2011, but this will be my first time running this workshop, so any
> > tips/pointers from your experience on showing noobs how to
> install/use
> > Linux will be most appreciated :)
> >
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