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Hi David<br>
<br>
Sorry for a slow reply. I've had a few busy days this week.<br>
<br>
<br>
David wrote:<br>
<blockquote cite="mid43A7B676.5030009@conceptual.net.au" type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">Glad you got the ADSL working!<br>
</blockquote>
yes the modem is connected to the internet.... <br>
<blockquote type="cite">What did you need to do?</blockquote>
what i dun is put the detales in to the modem and
then turn off the computer..
<br>
</blockquote>
So if I understand correctly, your ADSL modem is now logging on and
staying online and so we know the connection is working - i.e. the
modem is online. Are you connecting to the modem successfully yet?
Are you able to use any part of the Internet from your computer via
your ADSL connection?<br>
<br>
<blockquote cite="mid43A7B676.5030009@conceptual.net.au" type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">What mail client do you plan on using? I use
Mozilla Thunderbird.
<br>
</blockquote>
i use the same here too..
<br>
</blockquote>
That's good. Thunderbird is pretty straight forward. Just get your
account details from Concept and go to "Tools" then "Account
Settings". Is this the stage you are up to or is the problem still
Internet in general.<br>
<br>
If you are currently using Thunderbird on this PC with dial-up, no
changes will be required (I expect) to check your mail using ADSL. You
are just getting access a different way. Thunderbird doesn't care, so
long as it has an Internet connection to use.<br>
<br>
<blockquote cite="mid43A7B676.5030009@conceptual.net.au" type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">What did you have in mind?
</blockquote>
i can not get none think at all. the modem say i am on the net.. but
not get nonthink at all it all ways timeout..
<br>
</blockquote>
Before we talk about Thunderbird and email, I need to know if you have
Internet access working yet. Can you view web pages using your ADSL
connection? Can you ping web sites?<br>
<br>
<blockquote cite="mid43A7B676.5030009@conceptual.net.au" type="cite"> Is
it installed already?
<br>
yes
<br>
</blockquote>
If Internet (web pages) is working then we can move on to setting up
Thunderbird. If web browsing or other aspects of your Internet access
are not yet working, then you need to look at your Network settings.<br>
<br>
In other words, we know your modem is online, so if you can view web
pages then we will just make sure that Thunderbird is set up, but if
you can't yet view web pages then it means your computer is not
networked to your ADSL modem yet and that is the problem.<br>
<br>
I need to find out from you specifically what is working and what is
not.<br>
<br>
<blockquote cite="mid43A7B676.5030009@conceptual.net.au" type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">In the meantime, you can use Webmail by
logging into Concept's web page (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.conceptual.net.au">www.conceptual.net.au</a>), but clearly
you have email working to some extent because you managed to send this
message!!
</blockquote>
i have try that all ready and i can not get it up at all. i can not at
all.
<br>
</blockquote>
You can't view their web page? Does any part of your Internet access
work? Can you see the modem? Can you ping it? Can you log into it?
Can you ping web pages? Can you view web pages. Answer these
questions in order and we'll see where the problem lies...<br>
<br>
<blockquote cite="mid43A7B676.5030009@conceptual.net.au" type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">What point are you up to? </blockquote>
i want to sufe the net on ADSL...
<br>
</blockquote>
What I need to know is what things ARE working and what things DO NOT
WORK.<br>
<br>
<blockquote cite="mid43A7B676.5030009@conceptual.net.au" type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">What are you stuck with?
</blockquote>
getting on the net with ADSL.
<br>
</blockquote>
Your ADSL modem is logging on. But can you ping web pages or use any
Internet services at all?<br>
<br>
<blockquote cite="mid43A7B676.5030009@conceptual.net.au" type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">As always, details REALLY help us solve
problems.
</blockquote>
the problem is getting on the internet with ADSL.
<br>
</blockquote>
>From your last email I thought that was now working and the next
problem was email. We need to fix one problem at a time and you are
not going to get email until you have Internet access (starting with
basic stuff like web pages) working.<br>
<br>
<blockquote cite="mid43A7B676.5030009@conceptual.net.au" type="cite">what
i have dun is put my user name and pass word in to the modem and then
save it in and left the modem on for 23hr first. when i got on i save
all the Connection information in to the modem...
<br>
<br>
the modem i have got is NB5 ADSL2+
<br>
<br>
at this time i am on my dileup connection to get to my mail and authers
thinks to do. i will be here till we can work this out for the ADSL.
<br>
</blockquote>
So your ADSL modem is connecting, but you are using your dial-up
connection to do your work, true?<br>
<br>
Does that mean that Internet and email are working properly, in Linux,
on the same machine that you now want to connect to your ADSL modem?<br>
<br>
If so, all we need to do is get your computer to network to the modem
and request information from your modem. Nothing else should have to
change. Once you are connected email will work just like it does on
the dial-up connection.<br>
<br>
So the next thing I would like to know is, how is your modem connected
- USB or Ethernet (CAT5 / blue network cable)?<br>
<br>
<blockquote cite="mid43A7B676.5030009@conceptual.net.au" type="cite">regards
<br>
david
<br>
</blockquote>
I may have some time on Friday to answer a few questions, but if not,
it will be next Tuesday before I am back online.<br>
<br>
TO THE REST OF THE PLUG LIST: Supposing that a modem is working and
connected and attached to you Debian Sarge based PC via Ethernet, what
would be the steps (1, 2, 3, 4 etc.) that you would do in an X Windows
session to tell your computer to use 192.168.1.1 as the Default Gateway
with transparent proxy and DNS from the modem and to ignore your
dial-up connection and use the Ethernet instead.<br>
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