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<font size="-1">And also to note - working in the industry myself and
rubbing shoulders with a lot of other companies out there - that same
job at iiNet would be offered at another company, with for example a
60k starting salary.<br>
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As the old saying goes - if you pay peanuts, you'll get monkeys (or
whoever it goes..). That is the problem I see with that job for iiNet,
and perhaps why it has been advertised so often / had such a high
turnover rate. If you want quality employment, then its simple - you
pay for it.<br>
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Just my $0.02 worth.. YMMV :)<br>
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Cheers<br>
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Shayne O'Neill wrote:
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<pre wrap="">No, you can make that sort of money, if you just specialise right.
The big hint I've been told is to do a security degreee with an IT
minor. IT security guys with a security degrees can make mindboggling
somes of cash. A guy I know went straight from uni to nearly $300k .
That's absurd, and entirely achievable with a degree in security.
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From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:plug-bounces@plug.org.au">plug-bounces@plug.org.au</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:plug-bounces@plug.org.au">mailto:plug-bounces@plug.org.au</a>] On
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To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:plug@plug.org.au">plug@plug.org.au</a>
Subject: Re: [plug] iiNet job on Seek
On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 12:27 +0800, Tomasz Grzegurzko wrote:
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<pre wrap="">On 11/9/06, Tomasz Grzegurzko <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tomasz89@gmail.com"><tomasz89@gmail.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">On 11/9/06, Gavin Chester <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sales@ecosolutions.com.au"><sales@ecosolutions.com.au></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 11:55 +0800, Tomasz Grzegurzko wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Just for my curiosity, what would you expect to get in a job
such as that?
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<pre wrap="">For a programming job, requiring a decent amount of skill (and this
one sounds like it) I'd say at least >$40k for someone like myself.
'Course that depends on the person, for me I'm worth every penny
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<pre wrap=""><!---->hehe.
Thanks for such a comprehensive answer. I am surprised that salary
levels aren't what I had expected them to be - falling short by a long
way. I'm a life-sciences graduate and the salaries you quote are on par
with what people in my field could expect for comparable
seniority/experience. I had suffered under the delusion that IT with
good degree(s) and several years experience could easily expect
$150K-$250K. So is that only the few lucky to work freelance, or
what?
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<pre wrap="">Cheers,
Tomasz
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<pre wrap="">Sorry for THIS job they want heaps of skills and I agree with Shannon.
I was talking more generically about programming.
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And, thanks to you for your input, Shannon. I must say, you have put me
in my place regarding my expectations of IT salaries :-(. The reason
for my curiosity is because my wife often says "you spend so much
god-damn time on that computer, why don't you put it to _real_ use and
retrain in IT to bring home decent money!" :-) Maybe not, eh?
Gavin.
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