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On 11/02/11 17:03, Shanon Loughton wrote:
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cite="mid:AANLkTikBKVFMiQmSkwV4y=U2xFiLrMazjtg_Kburg1rL@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">thanks lucas for input. <br>
<br>
So, how much you want for it? :D<br>
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LOL<br>
<br>
Mythtv will be unhappy if I remove it ;)<br>
<br>
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cite="mid:AANLkTikBKVFMiQmSkwV4y=U2xFiLrMazjtg_Kburg1rL@mail.gmail.com"
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Lucas
van Staden <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:lvs@dedmeet.com">lvs@dedmeet.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div class="im"> On 11/02/11 16:27, Shanon Loughton wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">maybe ill just get the PS playtv
add on... :p<br>
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Hi,<br>
<br>
It is one way, but be prepared to be disappointed. :( I was
very much. <br>
<br>
This is just my own experience (I have very high
expectations from such devices), others may like it, I did
not. <br>
(Personally I think the PS3 interface is not geared towards
such things - high volume data/files lists)<br>
The only good thing I can say about the PlayTv device is
that it works on Linux. Period. Nothing Else. Oh wait, it
was a b/day gift from the wife, that's another ;)<br>
<br>
Tried using it for months as my main recording PVR, and just
finally gave up. <br>
<br>
It hardly ever recorded the right schedule times. (seems it
does not update the set schedules to what the actual
schedules become - programs seem to change scheduled times
often enough to make that an issue - I wonder if the TV
channels do that on purpose to prevent recordings?), and in
most cases the PS3 either have to stay on to enable the
recording (they say it should not, but they (sony) lie))<br>
Try and play a game whilst it is recording and the game
stutters badly.<br>
<br>
Also in Australia the capability to save your recordings to
external media is disabled. <br>
The whole thing seemed a bit haphazard/not well done. Very
disappointed in sony for that.<br>
<br>
I was very happy a few years back when I got my first PS3,
had high hopes to use it as my main PVR/frontend to media, <br>
and after many months of just frustrating dissatisfaction, I
reverted back to XBMC/MythTv setup.<br>
<br>
I now use it for what it is best : play games and watch
BD's, nothing else. Nice hardware, Pitty it is so locked
down. Even running linux on it was a great disappointment.<br>
<br>
Note:<br>
<br>
Did you see my PS3/mediatomb movie poster setup? Makes the
display in the PS3 with mediatomb a bit nicer, as you get
the movie posters as the icons :)<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.dedmeet.com/software-projects-mainmenu-12/mediatomb-movie-posters.html"
target="_blank">http://www.dedmeet.com/software-projects-mainmenu-12/mediatomb-movie-posters.html</a><br>
<font color="#888888"> <br>
-Lucas</font>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 4:15
PM, Lucas van Staden <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:lvs@dedmeet.com" target="_blank">lvs@dedmeet.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> That plugin
is still active and works pretty well. called
MythBox - <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://code.google.com/p/mythbox/"
target="_blank">http://code.google.com/p/mythbox/</a><br>
<br>
I use it in conjunction with the 'built-in'
mythtv// protocol, which you set as a source to
video content, in XBMC.<br>
The built in mythtv// protocol is just to do
playback, and makes it easier to get to the
recordings from mythtv. <br>
<font color="#888888"> <br>
-Lucas</font>
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On 11/02/11 16:03, Alvin Teh wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125);">A long long long
time ago, i saw a plugin for XBMC
where you can control a MythTv
backend to do schedule recording. It
might still be available.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125);">XBMC is only a
frontend player, so it does not have
any recording capabilities itself,
however I believe the guys at XBMC
is working on it. (Don’t wait for it
as it may be a while before it’s
implemented)</span></p>
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style="font-size: 11pt; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
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style="font-size: 11pt; color:
rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color:
windowtext;" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color:
windowtext;" lang="EN-US"> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:plug-bounces@plug.org.au"
target="_blank">plug-bounces@plug.org.au</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:plug-bounces@plug.org.au"
target="_blank">mailto:plug-bounces@plug.org.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lucas van
Staden<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 11 February
2011 3:57 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:plug@plug.org.au"
target="_blank">plug@plug.org.au</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [plug]
MythTV project</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<br>
<br>
On 11/02/11 15:47, Shanon Loughton
wrote: </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">My ubuntu
media server is not connected to my tv
- i use mediatomb to serve and ps3 to
play it all. If I replace mediatomb
with xmbc on the ubuntu server can you
control the record settings through
the ps3 client?</p>
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Mediatomb and XBMC are two very
different things.<br>
<br>
XBMC can serve its files to your
network, but I am not sure if that is
compatible with the PS3 (have never
tried that)<br>
XBMC is only a playback frontend,
cannot do any recording, for tat you
need MythTV (as one example), which
can also serve the files to your
network (I forget the term right now).
<br>
again not sure if the PS3 can be used
for picking up that served content
from MythTv.<br>
<br>
The PS3 client is just a playback
service, so no, you cannot set any
schedules with it to mythtv. (that I
am aware of)<br>
<br>
I stopped using my PS3 as a frontend
client a long time ago as the
interface is very cumbersome/lacking.<br>
<br>
-Lucas<br>
<br>
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">Shanon<br>
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Feb 11,
2011 at 2:27 PM, Lucas van Staden
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:lvs@dedmeet.com"
target="_blank">lvs@dedmeet.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 11/02/11
13:43, Tim Bowden wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for all
the advice. WAF is a big factor
here, so I'd like to<br>
get it right before I roll it out.<br>
<br>
It looks like I'll go with a Micro
ATX motherboard for the PCI slots.<br>
I'd like to run a separate back
end system, but at the moment
that's<br>
not practical. I've got nowhere
out of the way to run a 24/7 noisy<br>
backend system as I had to give up
my study a while back for a kids<br>
bedroom, and won't get one back
till we move. I have an old
AMD-64<br>
dual core system lying around with
a dead motherboard that would make<br>
an excellent back end if I could
find a new motherboard for it. If
I<br>
could find a Micro ATX motherboard
that would still take it, I'd<br>
consider it as as a front end, but
I suspect it would be a bit noisy<br>
with the cooling it would need.<br>
<br>
Interesting with the xbmc option
Lucas. What are the advantages of<br>
that over using the MythTV front
end with MythVideo/Music plugins?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Mostly mine is
WAF related. (look and feel/ease of
use)<br>
<br>
Last time I used mythtv frontend was
a bout 4 years ago, and wife did not
like the interface at all.<br>
Tried skin after skin after skin....<br>
<br>
xbmc just LOOKS way better than any
of the mythtv skins/screen layouts
that I have seen and tried.<br>
I started using it a long time ago
when I did not have mythtv running,
as I had no need to record stuff
(had a pvr box that did that job
back in the UK)<br>
and just wanted a frontend to view
d/loaded content. and stuck with it.<br>
<br>
I am very happy with it, and I
myself think it is way better
looking than mythtv's frontend, and
simpler to use.<br>
<br>
Now that xbmc is gearing towards
integrating their frontend with as
many PVR backends as they can
(mythtv seeming to be a main one),
it keeps the frontend the same no
matter what backend I am using,
which again comes back to WAF.<br>
<br>
Other than that, not much else, off
the top of my head.<br>
<br>
The xbmc plugins are great (and
there are MANY), easy to install
using just the menus, no technical
requirements, so wife can install
her own plugins as she sees fit.<br>
<br>
Can't comment on the music side, as
I do not use that at all. (xbmc or
mythtv - I find those interfaces
really cumbersome, but not as bad as
the PS3 interface to music - try and
browse a couple of thousand songs
there! using just a remote)<br>
<br>
Our music is run on the same
mini-itx box (as it is next to the
amp), but the interface we use is
MiniRok, which I run over the
network via xorg's network
transparency stuff (and dxpc), and
it allows the wife to play music
using her own actual pc, which sits
in the dining room area. (easy
navigation/searching etc using
actual kb and mouse - but the music
blasts out over the amp)<br>
<br>
see <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.dedmeet.com/software-projects-mainmenu-12/remote-music-player.html"
target="_blank">http://www.dedmeet.com/software-projects-mainmenu-12/remote-music-player.html</a>
(little bit dated. Changed teh way i
used dxpc to allow swapping teh
display about and I had wired the
whole house with cat6e since then.
Also, we have moved on to MiniRok,
which my wife likes the most of all
music players tried.- it is simple,
fast, and uses file navigation, not
mp3 tags.)<br>
<br>
Minirok is run using dxpc, which is
a compression layer and speeds
things up, not much use on the homes
gigabit network now, but it has one
huge advantage:<br>
Minirok is always running on the
mini-itx box, inside a dxpc session,
so I can just connect to that
session via a call from any pc in
the home (all linux of course)<br>
<br>
So, I can 'seamlessly' swap the
display from one pc to another, and
the music is not interrupted.<br>
Great for parties!<br>
<span style="color: rgb(136, 136,
136);"><br>
-Lucas</span> </p>
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