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    On 11/02/11 17:03, Shanon Loughton wrote:
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:AANLkTikBKVFMiQmSkwV4y=U2xFiLrMazjtg_Kburg1rL@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">thanks lucas for input. <br>
      <br>
      So, how much you want for it? :D<br>
      <br>
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    LOL<br>
    <br>
    Mythtv will be unhappy if I remove it ;)<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:AANLkTikBKVFMiQmSkwV4y=U2xFiLrMazjtg_Kburg1rL@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite"><br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Lucas
        van Staden <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:lvs@dedmeet.com">lvs@dedmeet.com</a>></span>
        wrote:<br>
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            <div class="im"> On 11/02/11 16:27, Shanon Loughton wrote:
              <blockquote type="cite">maybe ill just get the PS playtv
                add on... :p<br>
                <br>
              </blockquote>
            </div>
            Hi,<br>
            <br>
            It is one way, but be prepared to be disappointed. :( I was
            very much. <br>
            <br>
            This is just my own experience (I have very high
            expectations from such devices), others may like it, I did
            not. <br>
            (Personally  I think the PS3 interface is not geared towards
            such things - high volume data/files lists)<br>
            The only good thing I can say about the PlayTv device is
            that it works on Linux. Period. Nothing Else. Oh wait, it
            was a b/day gift from the wife, that's another ;)<br>
            <br>
            Tried using it for months as my main recording PVR, and just
            finally gave up.  <br>
            <br>
            It hardly ever recorded the right schedule times. (seems it
            does not update the set schedules to what the actual
            schedules become - programs seem to change scheduled times
            often enough to make that an issue - I wonder if the TV
            channels do that on purpose to prevent recordings?), and in
            most cases the PS3 either have to stay on to enable the
            recording (they say it should not, but they (sony) lie))<br>
            Try and play a game whilst it is recording and the game
            stutters badly.<br>
            <br>
            Also in Australia the capability to save your recordings to
            external media is disabled. <br>
            The whole thing seemed a bit haphazard/not well done. Very
            disappointed in sony for that.<br>
            <br>
            I was very happy a few years back when I got my first PS3,
            had high hopes to use it as my main PVR/frontend to media, <br>
            and after many months of just frustrating dissatisfaction, I
            reverted back to XBMC/MythTv setup.<br>
            <br>
            I now use it for what it is best : play games and watch
            BD's, nothing else. Nice hardware, Pitty it is so locked
            down. Even running linux on it was a great disappointment.<br>
            <br>
            Note:<br>
            <br>
            Did you see my PS3/mediatomb movie poster setup? Makes the
            display in the PS3 with mediatomb a bit nicer, as you get
            the movie posters as the icons :)<br>
            <br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.dedmeet.com/software-projects-mainmenu-12/mediatomb-movie-posters.html"
              target="_blank">http://www.dedmeet.com/software-projects-mainmenu-12/mediatomb-movie-posters.html</a><br>
            <font color="#888888"> <br>
              -Lucas</font>
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                <br>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 4:15
                    PM, Lucas van Staden <span dir="ltr"><<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:lvs@dedmeet.com" target="_blank">lvs@dedmeet.com</a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                      <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> That plugin
                        is still active and works pretty well. called
                        MythBox - <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://code.google.com/p/mythbox/"
                          target="_blank">http://code.google.com/p/mythbox/</a><br>
                        <br>
                        I use it in conjunction with the 'built-in'
                        mythtv// protocol, which you set as a source to
                        video content, in XBMC.<br>
                        The built in mythtv// protocol is just to do
                        playback, and makes it easier to get to the
                        recordings from mythtv. <br>
                        <font color="#888888"> <br>
                          -Lucas</font>
                        <div>
                          <div><br>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            On 11/02/11 16:03, Alvin Teh wrote:
                            <blockquote type="cite">
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                    style="font-size: 11pt; color:
                                    rgb(31, 73, 125);">A long long long
                                    time ago, i saw a plugin for XBMC
                                    where you can control a MythTv
                                    backend to do schedule recording. It
                                    might still be available.</span></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                    style="font-size: 11pt; color:
                                    rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                    style="font-size: 11pt; color:
                                    rgb(31, 73, 125);">XBMC is only a
                                    frontend player, so it does not have
                                    any recording capabilities itself,
                                    however I believe the guys at XBMC
                                    is working on it. (Don’t wait for it
                                    as it may be a while before it’s
                                    implemented)</span></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                                          style="font-size: 10pt; color:
                                          windowtext;" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                                        style="font-size: 10pt; color:
                                        windowtext;" lang="EN-US"> <a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:plug-bounces@plug.org.au"
                                          target="_blank">plug-bounces@plug.org.au</a>
                                        [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:plug-bounces@plug.org.au"
                                          target="_blank">mailto:plug-bounces@plug.org.au</a>]
                                        <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lucas van
                                        Staden<br>
                                        <b>Sent:</b> Friday, 11 February
                                        2011 3:57 PM<br>
                                        <b>To:</b> <a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:plug@plug.org.au"
                                          target="_blank">plug@plug.org.au</a><br>
                                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: [plug]
                                        MythTV project</span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<br>
                                  <br>
                                  On 11/02/11 15:47, Shanon Loughton
                                  wrote: </p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">My ubuntu
                                  media server is not connected to my tv
                                  - i use mediatomb to serve and ps3 to
                                  play it all.  If I replace mediatomb
                                  with xmbc on the ubuntu server can you
                                  control the record settings through
                                  the ps3 client?</p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                                  Mediatomb and XBMC are two very
                                  different things.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  XBMC can serve its files to your
                                  network, but I am not sure if that is
                                  compatible with the PS3 (have never
                                  tried that)<br>
                                  XBMC is only a playback frontend,
                                  cannot do any recording, for tat you
                                  need MythTV (as one example), which
                                  can also serve the files to your
                                  network (I forget the term right now).
                                  <br>
                                  again not sure if the PS3 can be used
                                  for picking up that served content
                                  from MythTv.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  The PS3 client is just a playback
                                  service, so no, you cannot set any
                                  schedules with it to mythtv. (that I
                                  am aware of)<br>
                                  <br>
                                  I stopped using my PS3 as a frontend
                                  client a long time ago as the
                                  interface is very cumbersome/lacking.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  -Lucas<br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                </p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">Shanon<br>
                                  <br>
                                </p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Feb 11,
                                    2011 at 2:27 PM, Lucas van Staden
                                    <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:lvs@dedmeet.com"
                                      target="_blank">lvs@dedmeet.com</a>>


                                    wrote:</p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal">On 11/02/11
                                      13:43, Tim Bowden wrote:</p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for all
                                      the advice.  WAF is a big factor
                                      here, so I'd like to<br>
                                      get it right before I roll it out.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      It looks like I'll go with a Micro
                                      ATX motherboard for the PCI slots.<br>
                                      I'd like to run a separate back
                                      end system, but at the moment
                                      that's<br>
                                      not practical.  I've got nowhere
                                      out of the way to run a 24/7 noisy<br>
                                      backend system as I had to give up
                                      my study a while back for a kids<br>
                                      bedroom, and won't get one back
                                      till we move.  I have an old
                                      AMD-64<br>
                                      dual core system lying around with
                                      a dead motherboard that would make<br>
                                      an excellent back end if I could
                                      find a new motherboard for it.  If
                                      I<br>
                                      could find a Micro ATX motherboard
                                      that would still take it, I'd<br>
                                      consider it as as a front end, but
                                      I suspect it would be a bit noisy<br>
                                      with the cooling it would need.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Interesting with the xbmc option
                                      Lucas.  What are the advantages of<br>
                                      that over using the MythTV front
                                      end with MythVideo/Music plugins?</p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Mostly mine is
                                    WAF related. (look and feel/ease of
                                    use)<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Last time I used mythtv frontend was
                                    a bout 4 years ago, and wife did not
                                    like the interface at all.<br>
                                    Tried skin after skin after skin....<br>
                                    <br>
                                    xbmc  just LOOKS way better than any
                                    of the mythtv skins/screen layouts
                                    that I have seen and tried.<br>
                                    I started using it a long time ago
                                    when I did not have mythtv running,
                                    as I had no need to record stuff
                                    (had a pvr box that did that job
                                    back in the UK)<br>
                                    and just wanted a frontend to view
                                    d/loaded content. and stuck with it.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    I am very happy with it, and I
                                    myself think it is way better
                                    looking than mythtv's frontend, and
                                    simpler to use.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Now that xbmc is gearing towards
                                    integrating their frontend with as
                                    many PVR backends as they can
                                    (mythtv seeming to be a main one),
                                    it keeps the frontend the same no
                                    matter what backend I am using,
                                    which again comes back to WAF.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Other than that, not much else, off
                                    the top of my head.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    The xbmc plugins are great (and
                                    there are MANY), easy to install
                                    using just the menus, no technical
                                    requirements, so wife can install
                                    her own plugins as she sees fit.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Can't comment on the music side, as
                                    I do not use that at all. (xbmc or
                                    mythtv - I find those interfaces
                                    really cumbersome, but not as bad as
                                    the PS3 interface to music - try and
                                    browse a couple of thousand songs
                                    there! using just a remote)<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Our music is run on the same
                                    mini-itx box (as it is next to the
                                    amp), but the interface we use is
                                    MiniRok, which I run over the
                                    network via xorg's network
                                    transparency stuff (and dxpc), and
                                    it allows the wife to play music
                                    using her own actual pc, which sits
                                    in the dining room area. (easy
                                    navigation/searching etc using
                                    actual kb and mouse - but the music
                                    blasts out over the amp)<br>
                                    <br>
                                    see <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.dedmeet.com/software-projects-mainmenu-12/remote-music-player.html"
                                      target="_blank">http://www.dedmeet.com/software-projects-mainmenu-12/remote-music-player.html</a>
                                    (little bit dated. Changed teh way i
                                    used dxpc to allow swapping teh
                                    display about and I had wired the
                                    whole house with cat6e since then.
                                    Also, we have moved on to MiniRok,
                                    which my wife likes the most of all
                                    music players tried.- it is simple,
                                    fast, and uses file navigation, not
                                    mp3 tags.)<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Minirok is run using dxpc, which is
                                    a compression layer and speeds
                                    things up, not much use on the homes
                                    gigabit network now, but it has one
                                    huge advantage:<br>
                                    Minirok is always running on the
                                    mini-itx box, inside a dxpc session,
                                    so I can just connect to that
                                    session via a call from any pc in
                                    the home (all linux of course)<br>
                                    <br>
                                    So, I can 'seamlessly' swap the
                                    display from one pc to another, and
                                    the music is not interrupted.<br>
                                    Great for parties!<br>
                                    <span style="color: rgb(136, 136,
                                      136);"><br>
                                      -Lucas</span> </p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                                      <br>
                                      <br>
                                      <br>
                                      <br>
                                      <br>
                                      -- <br>
                                      Regards<br>
                                      Lucas van Staden<br>
                                      <br>
                                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://www.proxiblue.com.au/"
                                        target="_blank">http://www.proxiblue.com.au/</a>
                                      (Consumer Electronics Retail Shop)<br>
                                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://www.vanstaden.com.au/"
                                        target="_blank">http://www.vanstaden.com.au/</a>
                                      (Linux)<br>
                                      <br>
                                      --<br>
                                      I'm happy spasmodically - If I eat
                                      a chocolate turtle I'm happy -
                                      When the box is empty I'm unhappy!<br>
                                      --<br>
                                      <br>
_______________________________________________</p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal">PLUG
                                        discussion list: <a
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                                          href="mailto:plug@plug.org.au"
                                          target="_blank">plug@plug.org.au</a><br>
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                                          href="http://lists.plug.org.au/mailman/listinfo/plug"
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                                <pre>_______________________________________________</pre>
                                <pre>PLUG discussion list: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:plug@plug.org.au" target="_blank">plug@plug.org.au</a></pre>
                                <pre><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.plug.org.au/mailman/listinfo/plug" target="_blank">http://lists.plug.org.au/mailman/listinfo/plug</a></pre>
                                <pre>Committee e-mail: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:committee@plug.linux.org.au" target="_blank">committee@plug.linux.org.au</a></pre>
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                                <pre>-- </pre>
                                <pre>Regards</pre>
                                <pre>Lucas van Staden</pre>
                                <pre> </pre>
                                <pre><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.proxiblue.com.au/" target="_blank">http://www.proxiblue.com.au/</a> (Consumer Electronics Retail Shop)</pre>
                                <pre><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.vanstaden.com.au/" target="_blank">http://www.vanstaden.com.au/</a> (Linux)</pre>
                                <pre> </pre>
                                <pre>--</pre>
                                <pre>I'm happy spasmodically - If I eat a chocolate turtle I'm happy - When the box is empty I'm unhappy!</pre>
                                <pre>--</pre>
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Regards
Lucas van Staden

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<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.vanstaden.com.au/" target="_blank">http://www.vanstaden.com.au/</a> (Linux)

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I'm happy spasmodically - If I eat a chocolate turtle I'm happy - When the box is empty I'm unhappy!
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                <pre cols="72">-- 
Regards
Lucas van Staden

<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.proxiblue.com.au/" target="_blank">http://www.proxiblue.com.au/</a> (Consumer Electronics Retail Shop)
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.vanstaden.com.au/" target="_blank">http://www.vanstaden.com.au/</a> (Linux)

--
I'm happy spasmodically - If I eat a chocolate turtle I'm happy - When the box is empty I'm unhappy!
--</pre>
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Regards
Lucas van Staden

<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.proxiblue.com.au/">http://www.proxiblue.com.au/</a> (Consumer Electronics Retail Shop)
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.vanstaden.com.au/">http://www.vanstaden.com.au/</a> (Linux)

--
I'm happy spasmodically - If I eat a chocolate turtle I'm happy - When the box is empty I'm unhappy!
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