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Hi,<br>
<br>
Just another little titbit of information regarding the Sony PS3
playTv, which adds to the disappointment.<br>
<br>
I have not been able to get channel 10 for some reason, and after
quite a bit of googling, I have found some posts that mention that
the device has a 'too high' error threshold on the signal strength.
(not 100% sure if that is the correct terminology), to explain:<br>
<br>
The device will not accept a channel as tuned in (or locked) if the
signal strength is below 90%. (the suggested level seems to differ
from post to post, but avarage at 90%, but definitely above 80%)<br>
<br>
I can get channel 10 fine on my hauppauge pci card, and on that the
signal strength is around 60%, which still gives a good picture.<br>
<br>
I for one would suggest to anyone to stay away from the playTV as a
solution to external capture cards.<br>
<br>
-Lucas<br>
<br>
On 11/02/11 16:49, Lucas van Staden wrote:
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On 11/02/11 16:27, Shanon Loughton wrote:
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cite="mid:AANLkTi=W2BSSWE8cg95gyQye1F6E5Up6qrT4Yd=WLVDE@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">maybe ill just get the PS playtv add on... :p<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
Hi,<br>
<br>
It is one way, but be prepared to be disappointed. :( I was very
much. <br>
<br>
This is just my own experience (I have very high expectations from
such devices), others may like it, I did not. <br>
(Personally I think the PS3 interface is not geared towards such
things - high volume data/files lists)<br>
The only good thing I can say about the PlayTv device is that it
works on Linux. Period. Nothing Else. Oh wait, it was a b/day gift
from the wife, that's another ;)<br>
<br>
Tried using it for months as my main recording PVR, and just
finally gave up. <br>
<br>
It hardly ever recorded the right schedule times. (seems it does
not update the set schedules to what the actual schedules become -
programs seem to change scheduled times often enough to make that
an issue - I wonder if the TV channels do that on purpose to
prevent recordings?), and in most cases the PS3 either have to
stay on to enable the recording (they say it should not, but they
(sony) lie))<br>
Try and play a game whilst it is recording and the game stutters
badly.<br>
<br>
Also in Australia the capability to save your recordings to
external media is disabled. <br>
The whole thing seemed a bit haphazard/not well done. Very
disappointed in sony for that.<br>
<br>
I was very happy a few years back when I got my first PS3, had
high hopes to use it as my main PVR/frontend to media, <br>
and after many months of just frustrating dissatisfaction, I
reverted back to XBMC/MythTv setup.<br>
<br>
I now use it for what it is best : play games and watch BD's,
nothing else. Nice hardware, Pitty it is so locked down. Even
running linux on it was a great disappointment.<br>
<br>
Note:<br>
<br>
Did you see my PS3/mediatomb movie poster setup? Makes the display
in the PS3 with mediatomb a bit nicer, as you get the movie
posters as the icons :)<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.dedmeet.com/software-projects-mainmenu-12/mediatomb-movie-posters.html">http://www.dedmeet.com/software-projects-mainmenu-12/mediatomb-movie-posters.html</a><br>
<br>
-Lucas<br>
<br>
<blockquote
cite="mid:AANLkTi=W2BSSWE8cg95gyQye1F6E5Up6qrT4Yd=WLVDE@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Lucas
van Staden <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:lvs@dedmeet.com">lvs@dedmeet.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
padding-left: 1ex;">
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> That plugin is still
active and works pretty well. called MythBox - <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://code.google.com/p/mythbox/" target="_blank">http://code.google.com/p/mythbox/</a><br>
<br>
I use it in conjunction with the 'built-in' mythtv//
protocol, which you set as a source to video content, in
XBMC.<br>
The built in mythtv// protocol is just to do playback, and
makes it easier to get to the recordings from mythtv. <br>
<font color="#888888"> <br>
-Lucas</font>
<div>
<div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 11/02/11 16:03, Alvin Teh wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">A long long long
time ago, i saw a plugin for XBMC where you
can control a MythTv backend to do schedule
recording. It might still be available.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">XBMC is only a
frontend player, so it does not have any
recording capabilities itself, however I
believe the guys at XBMC is working on it.
(Don’t wait for it as it may be a while before
it’s implemented)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt;
color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color:
windowtext;" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color:
windowtext;" lang="EN-US"> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:plug-bounces@plug.org.au"
target="_blank">plug-bounces@plug.org.au</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:plug-bounces@plug.org.au"
target="_blank">mailto:plug-bounces@plug.org.au</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lucas van Staden<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 11 February 2011 3:57
PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:plug@plug.org.au"
target="_blank">plug@plug.org.au</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [plug] MythTV project</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<br>
<br>
On 11/02/11 15:47, Shanon Loughton wrote: </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">My
ubuntu media server is not connected to my tv -
i use mediatomb to serve and ps3 to play it
all. If I replace mediatomb with xmbc on the
ubuntu server can you control the record
settings through the ps3 client?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
Mediatomb and XBMC are two very different
things.<br>
<br>
XBMC can serve its files to your network, but I
am not sure if that is compatible with the PS3
(have never tried that)<br>
XBMC is only a playback frontend, cannot do any
recording, for tat you need MythTV (as one
example), which can also serve the files to your
network (I forget the term right now). <br>
again not sure if the PS3 can be used for
picking up that served content from MythTv.<br>
<br>
The PS3 client is just a playback service, so
no, you cannot set any schedules with it to
mythtv. (that I am aware of)<br>
<br>
I stopped using my PS3 as a frontend client a
long time ago as the interface is very
cumbersome/lacking.<br>
<br>
-Lucas<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">Shanon<br>
<br>
</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at
2:27 PM, Lucas van Staden <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:lvs@dedmeet.com"
target="_blank">lvs@dedmeet.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 11/02/11 13:43, Tim
Bowden wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for all the
advice. WAF is a big factor here, so I'd
like to<br>
get it right before I roll it out.<br>
<br>
It looks like I'll go with a Micro ATX
motherboard for the PCI slots.<br>
I'd like to run a separate back end system,
but at the moment that's<br>
not practical. I've got nowhere out of the
way to run a 24/7 noisy<br>
backend system as I had to give up my study
a while back for a kids<br>
bedroom, and won't get one back till we
move. I have an old AMD-64<br>
dual core system lying around with a dead
motherboard that would make<br>
an excellent back end if I could find a new
motherboard for it. If I<br>
could find a Micro ATX motherboard that
would still take it, I'd<br>
consider it as as a front end, but I suspect
it would be a bit noisy<br>
with the cooling it would need.<br>
<br>
Interesting with the xbmc option Lucas.
What are the advantages of<br>
that over using the MythTV front end with
MythVideo/Music plugins?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Mostly mine is WAF related.
(look and feel/ease of use)<br>
<br>
Last time I used mythtv frontend was a bout 4
years ago, and wife did not like the interface
at all.<br>
Tried skin after skin after skin....<br>
<br>
xbmc just LOOKS way better than any of the
mythtv skins/screen layouts that I have seen
and tried.<br>
I started using it a long time ago when I did
not have mythtv running, as I had no need to
record stuff (had a pvr box that did that job
back in the UK)<br>
and just wanted a frontend to view d/loaded
content. and stuck with it.<br>
<br>
I am very happy with it, and I myself think it
is way better looking than mythtv's frontend,
and simpler to use.<br>
<br>
Now that xbmc is gearing towards integrating
their frontend with as many PVR backends as
they can (mythtv seeming to be a main one), it
keeps the frontend the same no matter what
backend I am using, which again comes back to
WAF.<br>
<br>
Other than that, not much else, off the top of
my head.<br>
<br>
The xbmc plugins are great (and there are
MANY), easy to install using just the menus,
no technical requirements, so wife can install
her own plugins as she sees fit.<br>
<br>
Can't comment on the music side, as I do not
use that at all. (xbmc or mythtv - I find
those interfaces really cumbersome, but not as
bad as the PS3 interface to music - try and
browse a couple of thousand songs there! using
just a remote)<br>
<br>
Our music is run on the same mini-itx box (as
it is next to the amp), but the interface we
use is MiniRok, which I run over the network
via xorg's network transparency stuff (and
dxpc), and it allows the wife to play music
using her own actual pc, which sits in the
dining room area. (easy navigation/searching
etc using actual kb and mouse - but the music
blasts out over the amp)<br>
<br>
see <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.dedmeet.com/software-projects-mainmenu-12/remote-music-player.html"
target="_blank">http://www.dedmeet.com/software-projects-mainmenu-12/remote-music-player.html</a>
(little bit dated. Changed teh way i used dxpc
to allow swapping teh display about and I had
wired the whole house with cat6e since then.
Also, we have moved on to MiniRok, which my
wife likes the most of all music players
tried.- it is simple, fast, and uses file
navigation, not mp3 tags.)<br>
<br>
Minirok is run using dxpc, which is a
compression layer and speeds things up, not
much use on the homes gigabit network now, but
it has one huge advantage:<br>
Minirok is always running on the mini-itx box,
inside a dxpc session, so I can just connect
to that session via a call from any pc in the
home (all linux of course)<br>
<br>
So, I can 'seamlessly' swap the display from
one pc to another, and the music is not
interrupted.<br>
Great for parties!<br>
<span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"><br>
-Lucas</span> </p>
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-- <br>
Regards<br>
Lucas van Staden<br>
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