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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Provided you're receiving a non-RFC1918
      address (public IP) within iiNet's range, iiNet's 6RD service
      should work for you.<br>
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      Otherwise, you can use one of the many tunnel brokers; AARNet,
      Freenet6, Hurricane Electric and IPv6Now. Keep in mind that a
      remote broker can add hundreds of milliseconds of latency, which
      would further compound the issues associated with the 500ms of
      round-trip latency it takes to travel 36,000km twice. It's
      therefore important to find a broker which is as close to your ISP
      as possible.<br>
      <br>
      Cheers,<br>
      <br>
      Adrian<br>
      <br>
      On 04/04/13 19:44, Tim White wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thanks for sharing your understanding
        Adrian.<br>
        <br>
        Anyone know similar information about NBN Satellite (The Optus
        satellite that links to Kalgoorlie I believe)<br>
        Not using iinet for NBN Satellite at the moment, but am
        interested to know if we'll ever see IPv6 on interim satellite
        or if there are technical difficulties.<br>
        <br>
        Tim<br>
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        On 04/04/13 17:19, Adrian Woodley wrote:<br>
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">My understanding is that iiNet's
          ADSL hardware lacks IPv6 support.<br>
          <br>
          Internode are still using the PPPoE model, which transports
          the PPP session back to a BBA/BRAS in the core network. The
          BBA/BRAS handles IPv6 over PPP, and all the DSLAM hardware
          sees is a stream of ethernet packets.<br>
          <br>
          iiNet's IPoDSL relies on the DSLAM hardware to hand out IP
          addresses to clients, from within the exchange. This hardware
          doesn't yet have IPv6 support, hence the need to use 6RD.<br>
          <br>
          I'm not intimately familiar with iiNet's current deployment,
          but it may be possible to drop an IPv6 router into each
          exchange which is able to hand out IPv6 prefixes to clients,
          over DSL. This model hasn't been deployed in Australia yet, so
          would be new to both iiNet and Internode. I'm not sure if
          they're even looking into it at this stage or not.<br>
          <br>
          Personally, I'd like to see them deploy a proper IPv6 Broker
          service. This could allow the static assignment of prefixes to
          individual accounts, removing the problem of network prefixes
          changing as IPv4 addresses change (on re-connection).
          Unfortunately, this would be a more complex solution from a
          CPE perspective, although there exist good tunnel clients for
          all the major OSs. As far as over-heads are concerned, the
          packet structure is the same and the hardware infrastructure
          would be very similar, so performance is likely to be
          comparable to the existing 6RD service. Again, I don't believe
          they're actually looking into this yet.<br>
          <br>
          Adrian<br>
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          On 03/04/13 15:58, James Henstridge wrote:<br>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:09 AM,
                Tim White <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                  .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">And
                  why shouldn't it apply to the whole iinet/internode
                  family?<br>
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                <div>Because iiNet hasn't merged the two companies'
                  plans yet.  For now, the iiNet branded plans do not
                  include IPv6.<br>
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                <div>Presumably it'll become generally available when
                  the operations are fully integrated, but there isn't
                  any public time frame for that.  If you can't wait,
                  follow Adrian's advice.<br>
                  <br>
                  James.<br>
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