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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/03/14 10:46, Leon Wright wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Krystin,
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<div>I'll wait for a Westnet person to respond, but thankyou
from the Admin team!</div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
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<div>Leon</div>
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<div>--<br>
DRM 'manages access' in the same way that jail 'manages
freedom.'<br>
<br>
# cat /dev/mem | strings | grep -i cats<br>
Damn, my RAM is full of cats... MEOW!!</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Krystin
Dix <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:krystindix@lothar.id.au" target="_blank">krystindix@lothar.id.au</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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style="direction:ltr;font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma">Hey
all,<br>
<br>
I have confirmed with my engineers that this was a
custom rule that was set to assist some domains with
catchall@ mailbox using a pop connector to add the
X-Envelope-To field so the pop connector can ascertain
which user to assign the mail to. I have been told
this has been removed and should be functioning as per
normal now.<br>
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Confirmed fixed. X-Envelope-To now only has my email address in it,
as it should be.<br>
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Thanks Krystin and your team. It's good to have iiNet using your
initiative and picking up issues like this and sorting them :-)<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
Steve<br>
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Any issues let me know.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Krystin Dix<br>
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face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> plug [<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:plug-bounces@plug.org.au"
target="_blank">plug-bounces@plug.org.au</a>]
on behalf of Leon Wright [<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:techman83@gmail.com"
target="_blank">techman83@gmail.com</a>]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 27 February 2014 11:36 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Steve Boak<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:plug@plug.org.au" target="_blank">plug@plug.org.au</a>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [plug] PLUG headers
revealing email addresses<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Nice work investigating this
James/Krystin. Keep us posted on how it pans
out. If the mailing list needs some tweaking
to avoid it occurring, I'll discuss it with
the admin team.
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<div>Leon</div>
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<div>--<br>
DRM 'manages access' in the same way that
jail 'manages freedom.'<br>
<br>
# cat /dev/mem | strings | grep -i cats<br>
Damn, my RAM is full of cats... MEOW!!</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 26,
2014 at 10:13 PM, Steve Boak <span
dir="ltr">
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sboak@westnet.com.au"
target="_blank">sboak@westnet.com.au</a>></span>
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<div>On 26/02/14 20:16, Krystin Dix
wrote:<br>
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Hey Steve,<br>
<br>
I will pass this on to the guys
responsible and see what they say.
(I currently work for iiNet /
Westnet Hosting).<br>
<br>
It is interesting to see that it is
done this way. If you wouldn't mind
forwarding me off list the exact
headers received to
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:kdix@staff.iinet.net.au"
target="_blank">kdix@staff.iinet.net.au</a>
and I will come back here with a
response.<br>
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Done
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Thanks<br>
Krystin Dix<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: plug [mailto:<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:plug-bounces@plug.org.au"
target="_blank">plug-bounces@plug.org.au</a>]
On Behalf Of Steve Boak<br>
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014
6:58 PM<br>
To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:plug@plug.org.au"
target="_blank">plug@plug.org.au</a><br>
Subject: Re: [plug] PLUG headers
revealing email addresses<br>
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On 26/02/14 14:37, James
Henstridge wrote:<br>
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On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:36 AM,
Steve Boak <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sboak@westnet.com.au"
target="_blank">sboak@westnet.com.au</a>>
wrote:<br>
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Hi<br>
<br>
I just happened to be looking
through the source of a plug
list<br>
message and saw this in the
headers (and yes, my address
is one of<br>
them)<br>
<br>
X-Envelope-To: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bxxx@westnet.com.au"
target="_blank">bxxx@westnet.com.au</a>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bxxx@westnet.com.au"
target="_blank">bxxx@westnet.com.au</a>,<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cxxx@westnet.com.au"
target="_blank">cxxx@westnet.com.au</a>,<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gxxx@westnet.com.au"
target="_blank">gxxx@westnet.com.au</a>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gxxx@westnet.com.au"
target="_blank">
gxxx@westnet.com.au</a>, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jxxx@westnet.com.au"
target="_blank">jxxx@westnet.com.au</a>,<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mxxx@westnet.com.au"
target="_blank">mxxx@westnet.com.au</a>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mxxx@westnet.com.au"
target="_blank">
mxxx@westnet.com.au</a>, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nxxx@westnet.com.au"
target="_blank">nxxx@westnet.com.au</a>,<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rxxx@westnet.com.au"
target="_blank">rxxx@westnet.com.au</a>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sxxx@westnet.com.au"
target="_blank">
sxxx@westnet.com.au</a>, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:vxxx@westnet.com.au"
target="_blank">vxxx@westnet.com.au</a>,<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:wxxx@westnet.com.au"
target="_blank">wxxx@westnet.com.au</a><br>
<br>
I've anonymised them of
course, but interesting to
note that it's<br>
only westnet addresses showing
up here. Is this an artefact
of the<br>
way the list mailer groups
it's send list?<br>
<br>
Can these be hidden in some
way, or is that just the way
the list works?<br>
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Hi Steve,<br>
<br>
I don't see that header in any
of the PLUG messages in my
archive.<br>
Given that the addresses you've
listed are all @<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://westnet.com.au"
target="_blank">westnet.com.au</a>,
is it<br>
possible that the header is
being added by your ISP? The
ordering of<br>
the header relative to the
"Received" headers might give a
clue about<br>
whether this is the case.<br>
<br>
When sending bulk mail (such as
mailing list traffic), it isn't<br>
uncommon to group the delivery
in this way to cut down on
traffic.<br>
There may be an option in
mailman to deliver messages
independently,<br>
but it is really the ISP that is
leaking the information to you.<br>
<br>
James.<br>
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Hi James<br>
<br>
The adding of the X-Envelope-To
header with multiple westnet
addresses started on the 1st of
February (this year), and every
email I have received directly
from the plug list since then has
it. Emails which are addressed to
me and cc'ed to the plug list
(such as your email above) don't,
even though they are delivered to
the same addresses.<br>
<br>
Thanks for the tip about the
ordering of headers - the extract
below seems to indicate that it is
iinet's mail server at fault.<br>
<br>
X-IronPort-AV:
E=Sophos;i="4.97,527,1389715200";
d="scan'208";a="185453217"<br>
X-Envelope-To: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bxxx@westnet.com.au"
target="_blank">bxxx@westnet.com.au</a>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bxxx@westnet.com.au"
target="_blank">bxxx@westnet.com.au</a>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cxxx@westnet.com.au"
target="_blank">
cxxx@westnet.com.au</a>, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gxxx@westnet.com.au"
target="_blank">gxxx@westnet.com.au</a>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gxxx@westnet.com.au"
target="_blank">gxxx@westnet.com.au</a>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jxxx@westnet.com.au"
target="_blank">
jxxx@westnet.com.au</a>, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mxxx@westnet.com.au"
target="_blank">mxxx@westnet.com.au</a>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mxxx@westnet.com.au"
target="_blank">mxxx@westnet.com.au</a>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nxxx@westnet.com.au"
target="_blank">
nxxx@westnet.com.au</a>, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rxxx@westnet.com.au"
target="_blank">rxxx@westnet.com.au</a>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sxxx@westnet.com.au"
target="_blank">sxxx@westnet.com.au</a>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:vxxx@westnet.com.au"
target="_blank">
vxxx@westnet.com.au</a>, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:wxxx@westnet.com.au"
target="_blank">wxxx@westnet.com.au</a><br>
Received: from unknown (HELO <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://power.plug.org.au"
target="_blank">power.plug.org.au</a>)
([54.252.97.56]) by
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://icp-osb-irony-in14.iinet.net.au"
target="_blank">icp-osb-irony-in14.iinet.net.au</a>
with ESMTP; 23 Feb 2014 10:51:27
+0800<br>
Received: from <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://power.plug.org.au"
target="_blank">power.plug.org.au</a>
(localhost [IPv6:::1]) by
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://power.plug.org.au"
target="_blank">power.plug.org.au</a>
(Postfix) with ESMTP id
9D0965D489; Sun, 23 Feb 2014<br>
02:54:04 +0000 (UTC)<br>
X-Original-To: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:plug@plug.org.au"
target="_blank">plug@plug.org.au</a><br>
<br>
I'll approach Westnet for an
explanation.<br>
<br>
Steve<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
PLUG discussion list: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:plug@plug.org.au"
target="_blank">plug@plug.org.au</a><br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.plug.org.au/mailman/listinfo/plug"
target="_blank">http://lists.plug.org.au/mailman/listinfo/plug</a><br>
Committee e-mail: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:committee@plug.org.au"
target="_blank">committee@plug.org.au</a><br>
PLUG Membership: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.plug.org.au/membership"
target="_blank">http://www.plug.org.au/membership</a><br>
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<div>-- <br>
Steve Boak, (08) 9756 0662, P.O. Box
240, Nannup, WA 6275<br>
Engin VOIP number (08) 6461 6187
(local number in Perth)<br>
Photos <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/jalbarragup_artworks/"
target="_blank">
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jalbarragup_artworks/</a><br>
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<div>_______________________________________________<br>
PLUG discussion list: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:plug@plug.org.au"
target="_blank">plug@plug.org.au</a><br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.plug.org.au/mailman/listinfo/plug"
target="_blank">http://lists.plug.org.au/mailman/listinfo/plug</a><br>
Committee e-mail: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:committee@plug.org.au"
target="_blank">committee@plug.org.au</a><br>
PLUG Membership: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.plug.org.au/membership"
target="_blank">http://www.plug.org.au/membership</a><br>
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Steve Boak, (08) 9756 0662, P.O. Box 240, Nannup, WA 6275
Engin VOIP number (08) 6461 6187 (local number in Perth)
Photos <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/jalbarragup_artworks/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/jalbarragup_artworks/</a>
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