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    BTW: cp has a number of advantages such as.<br>
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      <li>simpler command line</li>
      <li>presumably it detects target block size and does transfers in
        an optimal manner whereas you have to do this manually for dd</li>
      <li>potentially allows for copies to secured/encrypted media where
        dd may/maynot</li>
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    <p>Especially the bit about automatically handling the block size
      can make a massive difference in completion speed.<br>
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    <p>Regards<br>
      David G<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 28/09/15 21:54, David Godfrey wrote:<br>
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      Hi Euan,<br>
      <br>
      In days past you would be correct.<br>
      The current instructions are to use cp to copy the ISO directly to
      the raw device.<br>
      <br>
      See <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
        href="https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en">https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en</a><br>
      <br>
      Regards<br>
      David G<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 28/09/15 20:01, Euan wrote:<br>
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        cp ...?<br>
        <br>
        Surely you want to use dd.<br>
        <br>
        cp would assume the device is already formatted and mounted, and
        will just copy the iso to a file on the usb stick.<br>
        <br>
        Regards,<br>
        <br>
        Euan<br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On 28 September 2015 1:08:50 AM AWST,
          David Godfrey <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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            0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
            padding-left: 1ex;"> Regarding installing from USB....<br>
            These days if you are setting up a USB stick to install
            debian from and you have a linux system available to do the
            task all that is needed is to <br>
            <small><i>    cp debian.iso /dev/sdXX</i></small><br>
            so if your USB stick is coming up as /dev/sdb just run<br>
            <small><i>    cp debian.iso /dev/sdb</i></small><br>
            <br>
            I can't remember the recommended windows tool, but the
            debian installation guide will point you in the right
            direction.<br>
            You no longer need to use special tools that manipulate
            ISO's to install from USB.<br>
            All debian, and most derivatives use hybrid ISO's that can
            be booted from cd/dvd/usb/hdd directly.<br>
            <br>
            Regards<br>
            David G<br>
            <br>
            <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 28/09/15 00:43, Oliver Hills
              wrote:<br>
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              <div>Debian is easy to install just head to their website
                and download the right iso, for installing from usb you
                can google a load of usb iso installers depending on
                what OS your starting with I used lili today from a
                Windows box to osx and it worked fine. </div>
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              <div>On the topic of WordPress go for it but be prepared
                to harden your server, I run a commercial cpanel /whm
                server and you would be amazed at the amount of attacks
                I see per hour.  Secure ssh to key only and go from
                there maybe learn csf and read it's documentation
                properly first. </div>
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                <div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757">Sent from my
                  Samsung Galaxy smartphone.</div>
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                <div>-------- Original message --------</div>
                <div>From: Jon Miller <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                    href="mailto:jonl711@hotmail.com"><jonl711@hotmail.com></a>
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                <div>Date: 27/09/2015 22:57 (GMT+08:00) </div>
                <div>To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                    href="mailto:plug@plug.org.au">plug@plug.org.au</a>
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                <div>Subject: [plug] help needed </div>
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              I'm looking to install Debian on a web server and would
              like to get the<br>
              groups option.  <br>
              As I have always used SuSE Enterprise Linux as my servers
              for everything,<br>
              changing to Debian is a choice I decided to make due to
              support issues.<br>
              My question is I want to install Debian from either a DVD
              or USB, can I get<br>
              a link to download the files I would imagine an iso would
              do the trick.<br>
              The web server I'm planning to install is run on Debian
              will be WordPress.<br>
              Is there anyone that is against this and if so why?<br>
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              Thanks <br>
              <br>
              Jon<br>
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