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<p>This brings up an issue with pi's - I have a terrible history
with SD cards going bad on them. The 5x odroids I have with SD
cards (HC2's) have only had one die - in the same period, the pi3b
has had 2 die and the third is getting very slow (yes its being
trim'ed) so its about to die too. The older pi's are similarly
hard on SD cards, the only one that's lasted is one in a pi zero
W. The eMMC's have lasted where I use them.</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/8/20 2:32 pm, Oli Hills wrote:<br>
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<div>It really depends on usage.<br>
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<div>1. How large does the FS need to be?<br>
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<div> This depends whether you will need an external disk which
on a Pi would be USB. It's possible but personally I wouldn't
trust a FS to a single USB disk with no backups.<br>
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<div>2.. How much web traffic are you expecting?<br>
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<div> If it's anything commercial then run it on a cloud platform
not from home.<br>
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<div>I would offload the Router FW to a Ubiquiti security Gateway,
it's a personal preference but I like my internet access to not
be reliant on hardware that's used for anything else.<br>
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<div>Once done you can happily run networking components such as
DHCP / DNS on the Pi Including Pi hole alongside a low traffic
webserver and other smaller services. I like to treat Pi's and
their disks as destroyable, so would configure it with Ansible
and run all the services in docker. That way if you ever need
to recreate it you can pull a repo and hit the go button.<br>
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<div>On Mon, 10 Aug 2020, at 14:03, Jason Nicholls wrote:<br>
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<div>If not married to the PI then I'd also suggest looking at
2nd hand mini PCs.<br>
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<div>I picked up a Dell Optiplex 9020m i5 4590t with 8GB RAM
and 128GB SDD (internal) for $227. This is a low power unit
(idles ~10W) and way more powerful than a PI with proper
full speed GigE and USB3 if you want to hook up external
disks. Nice thing too is you can expand/upgrade it with more
ram or replace the internal disk etc... It's also tiny,
about the same size as my NBN router!<br>
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<div>If you consider the cost of a pi4 4GB + power + case,
then I think this is competitive - esp. if you were thinking
of getting multiple PIs<br>
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1:55 PM Benjamin <<a href="mailto:zorlin@gmail.com"
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<div>Odroid stuff is certainly worth looking at. My
"Elastic NAS" project is built on 4x ODROID HC2 units
running Ubuntu and MooseFS...<br>
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13:53 William Kenworthy, <<a
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<p>Or pay a small amount more and use an odroid N2 (6
arm cores, 4 G ram) and run the services via LXC. I
have a dav server, an asterisk PABX, internet facing
web server, slave dns, email and a radicale calendar
server plus a buildhost all in lxc on a single N2.
Everything including asterisk runs well on a
gentoo-sources kernel and a re-purposed Gentoo
aarch64 raspberry pi user-land from my old pi 3B.
An Odroid c4 will also work - note both of these
have USB3 if you want to run extra usb network
adaptors. The n2 is running a bridge for LXC to the
VLAN segmented networks while the C4 I have (odroid
4.14 kernel, gentoo aarch64 userland) is using 2
bridged USB 3 WiFi adaptors to vlans all without
problems. A major performance boost (at least 3x
over an SD card in my tests) is had using the odroid
eMMC storage, though the pi's have a sata hat
available - I have tried using usb storage and usb
networking together on both pies and odroids and its
a serious no-no :) - corruption and really bad
performance when busy). The standard odroid OS is
ubuntu and it can apparently also use raspian.<br>
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<p>Any pi less than a 4 will suffer from poor network
performance (it all goes through an internal,
under-powered USB2 hub), though I have used pi 1B's
for all the above services in the past. Going on my
experience, a pi less than a 4 will do ok for a not
very busy home server but wont do well for routing
and a pi 4 should be better at networking whereas
the more powerful odroid units will do it better,
perhaps to small enterprise level with the right
storage. see <a
href="https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-c4/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-c4/</a>
(the page for the older n2 i have uses a pi3 for the
comparison, the newer N2+ is here <a
href="https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-n2-with-4gbyte-ram-2/"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-n2-with-4gbyte-ram-2/</a>.)<br>
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<p>BillK<br>
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<div>Hey pluggers, <br>
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<div dir="auto">Just wondering what pi you
recommend for Web server, vpn server, file
server, router and a firewall.<br>
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<div dir="auto">Was thinking seperate pies for
each one and was wondering which model(s) would
be best. I have a esberrybpi 3 with 1gb ram but
figure it is a bit under powered.<br>
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<div dir="auto">Thanks <br>
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<div dir="auto">Russ<br>
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