<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type="text/css">p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div>It really depends on usage.<br></div><div><br></div><div>1. How large does the FS need to be?<br></div><div> This depends whether you will need an external disk which on a Pi would be USB. It's possible but personally I wouldn't trust a FS to a single USB disk with no backups.<br></div><div>2.. How much web traffic are you expecting?<br></div><div> If it's anything commercial then run it on a cloud platform not from home.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I would offload the Router FW to a Ubiquiti security Gateway, it's a personal preference but I like my internet access to not be reliant on hardware that's used for anything else.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Once done you can happily run networking components such as DHCP / DNS on the Pi Including Pi hole alongside a low traffic webserver and other smaller services. I like to treat Pi's and their disks as destroyable, so would configure it with Ansible and run all the services in docker. That way if you ever need to recreate it you can pull a repo and hit the go button.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Oli<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On Mon, 10 Aug 2020, at 14:03, Jason Nicholls wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style=""><div dir="ltr"><div>If not married to the PI then I'd also suggest looking at 2nd hand mini PCs.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I picked up a Dell Optiplex 9020m i5 4590t with 8GB RAM and 128GB SDD (internal) for $227. This is a low power unit (idles ~10W) and way more powerful than a PI with proper full speed GigE and USB3 if you want to hook up external disks. Nice thing too is you can expand/upgrade it with more ram or replace the internal disk etc... It's also tiny, about the same size as my NBN router!<br></div><div><br></div><div>If you consider the cost of a pi4 4GB + power + case, then I think this is competitive - esp. if you were thinking of getting multiple PIs<br></div></div><div><br></div><div class="qt-gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="qt-gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 1:55 PM Benjamin <<a href="mailto:zorlin@gmail.com">zorlin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="qt-gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-style:solid;border-left-width:1px;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="auto"><div>Odroid stuff is certainly worth looking at. My "Elastic NAS" project is built on 4x ODROID HC2 units running Ubuntu and MooseFS...<br></div><div dir="auto">- b<br></div></div><div><br></div><div class="qt-gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="qt-gmail_attr">On Mon, 10 Aug 2020, 13:53 William Kenworthy, <<a href="mailto:billk@iinet.net.au" target="_blank">billk@iinet.net.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="qt-gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-style:solid;border-left-width:1px;padding-left:1ex;"><div><p>Or pay a small amount more and use an odroid N2 (6 arm cores, 4 G
ram) and run the services via LXC. I have a dav server, an
asterisk PABX, internet facing web server, slave dns, email and a
radicale calendar server plus a buildhost all in lxc on a single
N2. Everything including asterisk runs well on a gentoo-sources
kernel and a re-purposed Gentoo aarch64 raspberry pi user-land
from my old pi 3B. An Odroid c4 will also work - note both of
these have USB3 if you want to run extra usb network adaptors.
The n2 is running a bridge for LXC to the VLAN segmented networks
while the C4 I have (odroid 4.14 kernel, gentoo aarch64 userland)
is using 2 bridged USB 3 WiFi adaptors to vlans all without
problems. A major performance boost (at least 3x over an SD card
in my tests) is had using the odroid eMMC storage, though the pi's
have a sata hat available - I have tried using usb storage and usb
networking together on both pies and odroids and its a serious
no-no :) - corruption and really bad performance when busy). The
standard odroid OS is ubuntu and it can apparently also use
raspian.<br></p><p>Any pi less than a 4 will suffer from poor network performance
(it all goes through an internal, under-powered USB2 hub), though
I have used pi 1B's for all the above services in the past. Going
on my experience, a pi less than a 4 will do ok for a not very
busy home server but wont do well for routing and a pi 4 should be
better at networking whereas the more powerful odroid units will
do it better, perhaps to small enterprise level with the right
storage. see <a href="https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-c4/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-c4/</a> (the page
for the older n2 i have uses a pi3 for the comparison, the newer
N2+ is here <a href="https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-n2-with-4gbyte-ram-2/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-n2-with-4gbyte-ram-2/</a>.)<br></p><p>BillK<br></p><p><br></p><div>On 10/8/20 12:58 pm, Russell Pereira
wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="auto"><div>Hey pluggers, <br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Just wondering what pi you recommend for Web
server, vpn server, file server, router and a firewall.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Was thinking seperate pies for each one and was
wondering which model(s) would be best. I have a esberrybpi 3
with 1gb ram but figure it is a bit under powered.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks <br></div><div dir="auto">Russ<br></div></div><div><br></div><pre>_______________________________________________
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