<div dir="ltr">Just throwing my 2 cents here.<div dir="auto">I doubt if you really care about performance and can probably run these two websites on the cheapest hardware you can find.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But if for some reason you do. Regardless of which hardware you use, use CloudFlare CDN free tier . <br>You'll get security and performance out of the box which you can't get with regular home connection<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 7:50 PM Benjamin <<a href="mailto:zorlin@gmail.com">zorlin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Paying wayyyy too much for nearly every component. WordPress runs fine on an sdcard, use less horrible stupid plugins and then stop using wordpress.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 23 Mar 2021, 19:49 Damon Perry, <<a href="mailto:talk@damonperry.id.au" target="_blank">talk@damonperry.id.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u><div><div>Altronics:<br></div><div>$144 Raspi4 8GB<br></div><div>$60 250GB SSD<br></div><div>$40 Case<br></div><div>$20 PSU</div><div>$6 SD<br></div><div>TOTAL: $270<br></div><div><br></div><div>You need an SSD, friends don't let friends run wordpress on an SD card.</div><div id="gmail-m_-7063727623147463150m_-3877209783105511295sig69834072"><div>--<br></div><div> Damon Perry<br></div><div> <a href="mailto:talk@damonperry.id.au" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">talk@damonperry.id.au</a><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On Tue, 23 Mar 2021, at 17:32, Benjamin wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="gmail-m_-7063727623147463150m_-3877209783105511295qt"><div dir="auto">Intel Celery processors are bad value long term and lack substantial nutrition.<br></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr">On Tue, 23 Mar 2021, 17:31 Benjamin, <<a href="mailto:zorlin@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">zorlin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Good god how much are you paying for your Pis?<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">$120 from a reputable vendor, plus $6 for a decent SD card, $30 for a damn nice case, $10 for PSU.<br></div></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr">On Tue, 23 Mar 2021, 17:02 Damon Perry, <<a href="mailto:talk@damonperry.id.au" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">talk@damonperry.id.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><u></u><br></div><div><div>I disagree with your pricing estimates.<br></div><div><br></div><div>raspi4 8GB, case, SSD&SD, PSU = ~$270<br></div><div>NUC Celeron , 8GB, & SSD = ~$330<br></div><div>Choosing the pi saves you $60, not $400.<br></div><div><br></div><div>The NUC will be more powerful as well:<br></div><div><a href="https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-raspberry_pi_4_b_broadcom_bcm2711-1796-vs-intel_celeron_j4005-840" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-raspberry_pi_4_b_broadcom_bcm2711-1796-vs-intel_celeron_j4005-840</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>You're getting a very nice NUC for $500-600<br></div><div id="gmail-m_-7063727623147463150m_-3877209783105511295qt-m_5520558217717005154m_-1250654402608469053sig69834072"><div>--<br></div><div> Damon Perry<br></div><div> <a href="mailto:talk@damonperry.id.au" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">talk@damonperry.id.au</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div>On Tue, 23 Mar 2021, at 13:38, Byron Hammond wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="gmail-m_-7063727623147463150m_-3877209783105511295qt-m_5520558217717005154m_-1250654402608469053qt"><div dir="auto"><div>This partly depends on your budget.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If you don't mind sacrificing performance, a cheap option would be the raspberry pi. You might pay 100$ for that, a case and power supply.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If you are happy to spend a little bit more (maybe around 500-600), as Damon suggested an Intel NUC are also good. Maybe you could claim this as a deduction against your tax.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div>The good thing about both of them is that they are small and low power.<br></div><div><br></div><div dir="auto">from my mobile<br></div></div></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr">On Tue, 23 Mar 2021, 12:40 pm Damon Perry, <<a href="mailto:talk@damonperry.id.au" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">talk@damonperry.id.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><u></u><br></div><div><div><div>If you assume the two websites he linked in the footer are what he wants then his requirements are 2 wordpress sites.<br></div><div><br></div><div>A NUC would probably be the most appropriate choice before going for more exotic or custom built options.<br></div><div><br></div><div>--<br></div><div> Damon Perry<br></div><div> <a href="mailto:talk@damonperry.id.au" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">talk@damonperry.id.au</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div>On Tue, 23 Mar 2021, at 08:16, Benjamin wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="gmail-m_-7063727623147463150m_-3877209783105511295qt-m_5520558217717005154m_-1250654402608469053qt-m_-3823627797456724514qt"><div dir="auto">The next step up from a weak server is a Pi but it's not exactly open source. Personally I love the Chatreey AN1 but the model I love is oos for weeks :(<br></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr">On Tue, 23 Mar 2021, 07:52 Bernd Felsche, <<a href="mailto:bernie@innovative.iinet.net.au" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">bernie@innovative.iinet.net.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 02:44:53 Jon Miller wrote:<br></div><div><br></div><div>> I'm looking for some advice on purchasing a mini web server that<br></div><div>> runs Linux (as I want to run my website from home vs via a hosting<br></div><div>> service), can I get recommendations on what's on the market and<br></div><div>> the ease of operation. I currently will only be running my 2<br></div><div>> websites.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I'm guessing that you upstream bandwidth is no more than 100Mbps.<br></div><div><br></div><div>If pages are largely static, you can keep the server small and<br></div><div>simple using THTTPD <a href="http://www.acme.com/software/thttpd/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.acme.com/software/thttpd/</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Static pages mean that your web site is blindingly-fast compared to<br></div><div>the dynamic sites that dominate the webscape.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Really small hardware (as open source as it can get) e.g.<br></div><div><a href="https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/Home-Server/LIME2-SERVER-NO-HDD/open-source-hardware" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/Home-Server/LIME2-SERVER-NO-HDD/open-source-hardware</a><br></div><div>Choose HDD/SSD from your vendor/bits bin.<br></div><div><br></div><div>If you need dynamic pages - and think about that very carefully<br></div><div>because that can also open up your site to scripting attacks - then<br></div><div>the next step up is an entry-level, multi-core AMD beastie with<br></div><div>giggles of RAM for cache. 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