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    <p>Hi Bill</p>
    <p>I have an original westnet email address, so that's probably why
      it works for me. At some time in the past I had trouble with
      Westnet's servers and swapped to iiNet. I think that was when
      TLS1.2 became a requirement, and at that time Westnet was the one
      with issues.</p>
    <p>Steve</p>
    <p><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/12/2022 10:31 am, William
      Kenworthy wrote:<br>
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      <p>Hi Steve, <br>
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      <p>tkx for this - ssl works, but I cant login (getmailrc:
        credential/login error (b'[AUTHENTICATIONFAILED] Authentication
        failed.') even on plain imap). Ive tried pop3SSL (on port 995)
        and IMAPSSL on ports 143 and 993 - I presume my logins are
        restricted to iinet only?  One difference is that the iinet
        server temp temp key is shorter than what I believe my openssl
        version will accept.<br>
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      <p>SSL differences: (left of the "|" is Westnet, right is iinet)<br>
      </p>
      <p>server Temp Key: ECDH, P-256, 256 bits  |  Server Temp Key: DH,
        1024
bits                                                                       
         <br>
        New, TLSv1.2, Cipher is ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 |  New, TLSv1.2,
        Cipher is
DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384                                                    
         <br>
          Server public key is 2048 bit  |  Server public key is 2048
bit                                                                        
         <br>
        <br>
              Protocol  : TLSv1.2  |      Protocol  :
TLSv1.2                                                                              
         <br>
              Cipher    : ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384  |      Cipher    :
DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384                                                            
         <br>
        The above cyphers do exist on my system:</p>
      <p>ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 TLSv1.2 Kx=ECDH     Au=RSA 
        Enc=AES(256)  Mac=SHA384</p>
      <p>DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 TLSv1.2 Kx=DH       Au=RSA 
        Enc=AESGCM(256) Mac=AEAD<br>
      </p>
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      </p>
      <p>I presume its working for some - but how?<br>
      </p>
      <p>BillK</p>
      <p><br>
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      <p><br>
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      <p><br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/12/22 07:15, Steve Boak wrote:<br>
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        <p>Hi William</p>
        <p>I had this problem using fetchmail, and emailed iiNet support
          (copy below) with my solution. Obviously they haven't managed
          to fix it :-(</p>
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        <p>Hi Support</p>
        <p>Did you change the TLS settings on mail.iinet.net.au (POP3)
          on or about Saturday the 5th of November?</p>
        <p>From sometime on the 5th of November, I have been unable to
          retrieve emails from mail.iinet.net.au using POP3 and TLS1,
          getting an error <b>mail.iinet.net.au: upgrade to TLS failed.</b></p>
        <p>Changing to TLS1.2 also doesn't work on mail.iinet.net.au,
          with the error <b>OpenSSL reported: error:141A318A:SSL
            routines:tls_process_ske_dhe:dh key too small</b></p>
        <p>I have finally got email working again by changing to POP3 on
          mail.westnet.com.au, where TLS1.2 is working correctly.</p>
        <p>Hope that helps...</p>
        <p>Steve</p>
        <p><br>
        </p>
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/12/2022 9:26 pm, William
          Kenworthy wrote:<br>
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          <p>Hi, is anyone able to retrieve email from iinet using
            SSL/TLS for either POP3 or IMAP using getmail or fetchmail
            since their changes on the 7th Nov?  I had to remove SSL/TLS
            after this date to get it working - so plain text :(</p>
          <p>I am currently using openssl 1.1.1q, python 3.10.8 and
            getmail.  I was originally using fetchmail but that didn't
            work either.  The errors vary depending on whether POP3 is
            used (something like dh too short) to unknown SSL version
            for IMAP (even when specifying TLS1.2) on ports 143 or 993. 
            Testing using openssl s_client doesn't give any clues. <br>
          </p>
          <p>BillK</p>
          <p><br>
          </p>
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