<div dir="ltr">Another option would be xbuntu which I think comes with xfce by default.<div><br></div><div>-rob</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 at 11:31, Byron Hammond <<a href="mailto:byronester@gmail.com">byronester@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">You could also try Ubuntu Margaret. I don't believe they've switched to Wayland yet so XFCE should just work when you install it.<div>Another option...</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div>Byron</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 at 11:11, Kyer Potts <<a href="mailto:kyerpotts@gmail.com" target="_blank">kyerpotts@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">There are quite a few depending on what you’re looking for. If you want a desktop that feels similar to Xfce, Gnome and KDE plasma are your best bets.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If you’d like to try something a little more exotic and don’t mind tinkering, check out some of the tiling window manager options like sway, river and hyprland (hyprland is my current favourite).</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 at 10:57, M S R Wood <<a href="mailto:msrwood@gmail.com" target="_blank">msrwood@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">If I can get a terminal using Rob's suggestion I will change the boot option.<br>
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xfce is definitely my preferred desktop.<br>
Pixel/LXDE is out as I need to be able to change the theme to a dark background<br>
<br>
What else is available?<br>
<br>
Would it be possible for me to install xorg?<br>
<br>
On 20/01/2024, Kyer Potts <<a href="mailto:kyerpotts@gmail.com" target="_blank">kyerpotts@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hi Margaret,<br>
><br>
> From my understanding you can set any raspberry pi running bookworm to boot<br>
> to cli mode rather than desktop mode. It’s listed under the general<br>
> raspi-config settings and can be accessed from a terminal emulator or tty.<br>
><br>
> As for your problems with the desktop environment, the latest pi OS<br>
> (bookworm) is running Wayland instead of xorg. Xfce does have some Wayland<br>
> support but at this stage it’s rather limited, which would explain why you<br>
> can boot to the desktop but are having problems with some of it’s ecosystem<br>
> tooling. Does the pi need to run Xfce or are you open to other lightweight<br>
> desktop options that are Wayland compatible?<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 at 17:57, M S R Wood <<a href="mailto:msrwood@gmail.com" target="_blank">msrwood@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> I have just installed the latest Raspberry pi OS lite on my desktop<br>
>> pi. 4. I then installed xfce4. plus lightdm and xfce4-terminal, used<br>
>> raspi-config to set the machine to boot to the desktop with login<br>
>> required.<br>
>> I tnen logged in as the default user and got just the desktop<br>
>> background with a single terminal - no panel or toolbar.<br>
>> I could move the terminal with the mouse, start Firefox and use it,<br>
>> but not move it.<br>
>> I then installed xfce4-goodies and tried again<br>
>> Same result.<br>
>> I then installed xfce4-helpers, which was mentioned on one of the web<br>
>> pages I found, and rebooted<br>
>> This time when I logged in I just got the desktop background!<br>
>><br>
>> I've put the old SD card back in temporarily so I can use the computer<br>
>><br>
>> Firstly, if I put the new card back in, is there a way to get the pi<br>
>> to boot to console rather than desktop so that I can change settings,<br>
>> install/uninstall things? (As a last resort I can reimage the card and<br>
>> start again but I'd prefer something quicker!)<br>
>><br>
>> Secondly, any suggestions as to packages I might need to install<br>
>> and/or other settings I need to change to make xfce work "properly"<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Margaret<br>
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