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<p>I'll add a "me too" to IPv6 - back before I retired I turned IPv6
off as it misbehaved with numerous applications and never bothered
to turn it back on - at least a decade ago, so I need a refresher
:)</p>
<p>Also I am aware of at least one instance where IPv6 tunnelled out
of a supposed air-gapped secure network when a cable was
inadvertently plugged into the wrong spot so methods to cover IPv6
security and a discussion around real world performance and issues
compared to IPv4 would be useful.<br>
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<p>As for HomeLabs (see <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://linuxhandbook.com/homelab/">https://linuxhandbook.com/homelab/</a>) many of
us have one so maybe a main presentation and multiple short
examples talks?</p>
<p>BillK</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30/12/24 07:56, Dean Bergin wrote:<br>
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there's a call for talks.</div>
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from this thread, I think I might like to do two talks in
the new year:</div>
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<li>IPv6 for Systems Engineering</li>
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<font face="verdana, sans-serif">As someone who's primarily
a Network Engineer (and who also has Systems Engineering
skills) I have a certain amount of knowledge or hands-on
experience in those topics listed above, but I'm also
happy to do others that overlap into the networking-space
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<i>Dean Bergin</i>.</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 at 15:37,
Harry McNally <<a href="mailto:chair@plug.org.au"
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Thanks everyone that offered feedback so far.<br>
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The committee may add to my observations when it meets. For
now:<br>
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Greg O said:<br>
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> I'd love to say I will come to the March event, because
my 10yo NUC is overpowered for what it does, and when it
eventually dies I would like to know what I can practically
achieve with a Pi. I also want to run HA, beyond the Docker
container I started a year ago and promptly neglected.<br>
<br>
My interest is similarly low powered servers and the Pi has a
high profile. If people have heard of Pi, it makes sense to
make it an entry point for small projects. PLUG (through
Nick's efforts) has access to support from Raspberry Pi Ltd
for these events. <br>
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Chris Mc said:<br>
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> I have a Pi running in our place in Perth as a NAS. [..]
I modified a Pi case STL file in Blender and 3d printed a
little enclosure that houses everything - the powered USB hub,
two drives, and the Pi itself. I set up Wireguard (..) and now
I can connect to the Pi from anywhere in the world ..<br>
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This would be a great project to show off on the Raspberry Jam
evening if you are able to bring it.<br>
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Brad C said:<br>
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> We have 4 that are permanent and a couple that get used
wirelessly for things like programming PICs or as wireless
serial ports for configuring stuff. [.. interesting
applications follow ..]<br>
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These are all interesting applications although I can see it
would be hard to bring physical hardware for the backup
systems! It would be great to have you at the Raspberry Jam
evening to talk about those applications or any that are
pocket-able that you can bring along.<br>
<br>
> Mythic Beasts has been doing Pi co-lo for a few years
now. I've been meaning to play with one of those.<br>
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My own perspective is taking back the hardware rather than
waggling the credit card at a cloud provider. The comparison
I'd make is that a ham radio enthusiast isn't going to have
the same fun by hiring a sat phone. I'm happy to be warned of
obstacles for self hosting and ways around them. Still, part
of the session could also demonstrate setting up a Pi at
Mythic Beasts.<br>
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Rob P said:<br>
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> I have not found plug to be particularly useful - the
esoteric stuff discussed on this list is way above my head.
What I would be interested in is information about how to use
linux as a productivity tool.<br>
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Thanks Rob. I had someone say years ago that they don't post
to the plug list because they were intimidated by the
technical discussions. And yet then there was always people
asking questions about this or that user application issue
they hadn't found a way to solve. Today I see many solutions
to issues on-line that can be contradictory or simply wrong.
The PLUG list traffic has declined and it could be that it is
only technical posts that remain. Jacek (committee) has also
noted that he is getting people at Riff / SpaceCubed asking
about Linux when they see him using it. This could assist us
to re-invigorate the list with fresh questions and solutions.<br>
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I can already see two opportunities for sessions from your
list.<br>
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There are graphical tools rather that using sudo apt but I'd
argue they still require some work to figure out what packages
you need to select for XYZ App. An evening looking at the
available package management tools and security upgrades would
be one for the committee to discuss and plan.<br>
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Also, graphical file managers; configuring them,
documentation, and how to request improvements to
shortcomings. We have access to Ubuntu developers in Perth who
could offer guidance on how to contact developer lists to
request change. I think the committee need to ask (that is,
survey) which file managers are of most interest and provide
an evening that compares and contrasts features.<br>
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BillK said:<br>
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> Timely - I just unplugged my last Pi (a 3B) a couple of
days ago as being too underpowered.<br>
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To be honest, I haven't discussed the PLUG on Pi in any detail
with Nick yet but the PLUG on Pi may run services on multiple
Pi (or cluster ?). For now the AWS instance is only serving
web and mailing list and membership management. If Nick shares
my view then I think the idea is to see how much can be
achieved using small hardware.<br>
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PLUG used to offer shell services before the co-lo server
failed so there are opportunities to see how far the Pi (one
or more) can take that.<br>
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I heard second-hand that scribe (hello) had talked on
Masterdon about the PLUG Installfests. This got me thinking
that the social media exclusion laws may be handing an
opportunity to introduce circa-2025 Trents to open source
tools and hardware. I'd like to explore if we can arrange
sessions for 10 to 16 year olds (and anyone) to set up their
own Masterdon on Pi. There are plenty of on-line resources
describing how but a face to face would be a great way to
assist anyone starting out with a Pi.<br>
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Feedback welcome.<br>
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All the best<br>
Harry<br>
Chair, Perth Linux User Group<br>
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