[PLUG-AV] Cameras : getting urgent now.

[Michael Van Delft]

Didn't see the last email come through, the canon looks great.

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Michael Van Delft <michael at hybr.id.au> wrote:
> There are some professional cameras for around $1500 - $2000 the Sony
> HVR-HD1000U looks good but could be a bit too pricy.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Sony-HVR-HD1000U-Definition-Camcorder-Optical/dp/B0010T7J18/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1323068675&sr=8-1
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Luke John <luke.john at osmahi.com> wrote:
>> Canon HV-40 was used debconf 2011 with dvswitch and retails at >=$929 AUD
>>
>> http://www.canon.com.au/For-You/Digital-Video-Cameras/LEGRIA-Video-Cameras/HV40
>>
>> Terminals
>> HDV/DV in/out / AV out / Component out / HDMI output / Headphone and
>> Microphone terminals / USB Full Speed
>>
>> Streaming
>> IEEE1394 (MPEG2-TS/DV) / Analogue to Digital Converter
>>
>> Kind Regards
>> Luke John
>>
>> phone: 0429 904 999
>> email: luke.john at osmahi.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:55 PM, James Bromberger <james at rcpt.to> wrote:
>>> On 5/12/2011 2:10 PM, Nick Bannon wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 12:19:56PM +0800, James Bromberger wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> I'd like us to get our hands on one of the USB 3 HDMI capture devices
>>> and see if that will work as well, but again, later - after we have this
>>> current grant taken care of...
>>>
>>> No.
>>>
>>> I think that's precisely what we need to quote for, because I can't find
>>> good value alternatives. So we need experimental alternatives.
>>>
>>> Saying "experimental" may not be reassuring for a grant. Hence staying to
>>> the proven track... if possible...
>>>
>>>
>>> * Two mid range HDMI-out camcorders, different brands, such as the Sony
>>>   HDR-PJ10, $795 each at Harvey Norman. Subject to sanity checking
>>>   on whether it includes its own battery eliminator and mini-HDMI to
>>>   HDMI adaptor.
>>>
>>> Cable for this isn't a problem - I purchased one from Deal Extreme last year
>>> to confirm my personal mini-HDMI out camera does live feed for capture (it
>>> does). What is an unknown is getting Linux to talk to an HDMI capture device
>>> of some sort, and then getting video (transcoded?) to dvswitch.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> * Two HDMI capture interfaces, one PCI-E, one USB 3.0:
>>> http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/
>>> http://www.mbsdirect.com/current/BINTSSHU-BlackMagic-Intensity-Shuttle-USB-3.0-capture-device-for-Windows.html
>>> http://www.tekserve.com/store/550/Capture_Cards_I_O_Devices/31036
>>> USD$189.05 each plus P&P
>>>
>>> * Two http://hdfury.eu/ 's so we can capture HDMI on a Twinpact 100.
>>> http://hdfury.eu/product.php?id_product=10
>>> EUR 208.25 each plus P&P
>>>
>>> Why get a Fury (to capture HDMI to Twinpact to PC), when you have HDMI
>>> capture with the Blackmagic Shuttle above (HDMI direct to PC, no Twinpact
>>> required?)?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> * Four secondhand MiniDV camcorders for a we-know-it-works some-may-break
>>> option, Cash Converters or (less than) $450 each in the Quokka.
>>>
>>>
>>> My only reasons for this are: LotteryWest are after a formal quote; and we
>>> want a repeatable supply chain if possible.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> We need to probably do that as well, but perhaps later as any delay now
>>> could delay our current grant application. I'm wondering if we should
>>> submit for the semi-professional cameras that still have fire wire on
>>> them; they may give a better image quality, etc.
>>>
>>> I'm not swamped by easy-to-supply alternatives, so yes, we need those
>>> quotes on new iLink/Fireware/IEEE1394/MiniDV cameras.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, and the best I can see -- as you show -- are the "professional" models:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.sony.com.au/product/hdr-fx1000e/specs      RRP AUD $5699
>>>
>>>
>>> But I thought I saw one around $1500 or so.... can't see it now...
>>>
>>>
>>> What we HAD put on our original submission was a quote for a pair of Canon
>>> HV20 from Camera-Warehouse.com.au, but now that I check that it doesn't have
>>> firewire...
>>>
>>> I spoke with Plaza camera and they don't have anything.  They did recommend
>>> Camera Electronic, whom I have emailed. http://www.cameraelectronic.com.au/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The rest of these are missing it...
>>> http://www.sony.com.au/product/CompareProducts.action?site=hp_en_AU_i&models=HDR-PJ50VE&models=HDR-XR160E&models=DCR-SR68E&models=HDR-PJ30VE&models=HDR-PJ10E&models=HDR-CX700VE&models=HDR-CX130E&models=HDR-CX110E&models=DCR-SX65E&models=HDR-AX2000E&models=HDR-FX1000E&models=NEX-VG20E&models=NEX-VG20EH&models=NEX-VG10E
>>>
>>> Probably one of these archived ones are available in shops:
>>> http://www.sony.com.au/product/ProductComparisonWizard.action?site=hp_en_AU_i&sectiontype=product&modelName=HDR-FX1000E&deepestLevelCategoryId=CAM+Camcorder
>>>
>>> Google's not helping much:
>>> http://www.google.com.au/search?q=camcorder+ilink|firewire|1394+-cable&tbm=shop
>>>
>>>
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