[PLUG-AV] Cameras : getting urgent now.

Mon Dec 5 15:13:30 WST 2011

I've just spoken to Chris at
http://camerapro.net.au/canon-hv40-camcorder-australian-stock-while-stock-last-p-162.html

Quote attached.

They have 3 left in stock - the model is EOL.  He agreed about the
reasoning behind this - he says lots of media students still try and do
this, but he was alaso aware of the Blackmagic HDMI capture - though he
through it was very new (he said he first heard of this last weekend).

Everyone happy if I forward this to LotteryWest?

  James

On 5/12/2011 3:08 PM, Michael Van Delft wrote:
> Didn't see the last email come through, the canon looks great.
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Michael Van Delft <michael at hybr.id.au> wrote:
>> There are some professional cameras for around $1500 - $2000 the Sony
>> HVR-HD1000U looks good but could be a bit too pricy.
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Sony-HVR-HD1000U-Definition-Camcorder-Optical/dp/B0010T7J18/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1323068675&sr=8-1
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Luke John <luke.john at osmahi.com> wrote:
>>> Canon HV-40 was used debconf 2011 with dvswitch and retails at >=$929 AUD
>>>
>>> http://www.canon.com.au/For-You/Digital-Video-Cameras/LEGRIA-Video-Cameras/HV40
>>>
>>> Terminals
>>> HDV/DV in/out / AV out / Component out / HDMI output / Headphone and
>>> Microphone terminals / USB Full Speed
>>>
>>> Streaming
>>> IEEE1394 (MPEG2-TS/DV) / Analogue to Digital Converter
>>>
>>> Kind Regards
>>> Luke John
>>>
>>> phone: 0429 904 999
>>> email: luke.john at osmahi.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:55 PM, James Bromberger <james at rcpt.to> wrote:
>>>> On 5/12/2011 2:10 PM, Nick Bannon wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 12:19:56PM +0800, James Bromberger wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> I'd like us to get our hands on one of the USB 3 HDMI capture devices
>>>> and see if that will work as well, but again, later - after we have this
>>>> current grant taken care of...
>>>>
>>>> No.
>>>>
>>>> I think that's precisely what we need to quote for, because I can't find
>>>> good value alternatives. So we need experimental alternatives.
>>>>
>>>> Saying "experimental" may not be reassuring for a grant. Hence staying to
>>>> the proven track... if possible...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * Two mid range HDMI-out camcorders, different brands, such as the Sony
>>>>   HDR-PJ10, $795 each at Harvey Norman. Subject to sanity checking
>>>>   on whether it includes its own battery eliminator and mini-HDMI to
>>>>   HDMI adaptor.
>>>>
>>>> Cable for this isn't a problem - I purchased one from Deal Extreme last year
>>>> to confirm my personal mini-HDMI out camera does live feed for capture (it
>>>> does). What is an unknown is getting Linux to talk to an HDMI capture device
>>>> of some sort, and then getting video (transcoded?) to dvswitch.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * Two HDMI capture interfaces, one PCI-E, one USB 3.0:
>>>> http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/
>>>> http://www.mbsdirect.com/current/BINTSSHU-BlackMagic-Intensity-Shuttle-USB-3.0-capture-device-for-Windows.html
>>>> http://www.tekserve.com/store/550/Capture_Cards_I_O_Devices/31036
>>>> USD$189.05 each plus P&P
>>>>
>>>> * Two http://hdfury.eu/ 's so we can capture HDMI on a Twinpact 100.
>>>> http://hdfury.eu/product.php?id_product=10
>>>> EUR 208.25 each plus P&P
>>>>
>>>> Why get a Fury (to capture HDMI to Twinpact to PC), when you have HDMI
>>>> capture with the Blackmagic Shuttle above (HDMI direct to PC, no Twinpact
>>>> required?)?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * Four secondhand MiniDV camcorders for a we-know-it-works some-may-break
>>>> option, Cash Converters or (less than) $450 each in the Quokka.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My only reasons for this are: LotteryWest are after a formal quote; and we
>>>> want a repeatable supply chain if possible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> We need to probably do that as well, but perhaps later as any delay now
>>>> could delay our current grant application. I'm wondering if we should
>>>> submit for the semi-professional cameras that still have fire wire on
>>>> them; they may give a better image quality, etc.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not swamped by easy-to-supply alternatives, so yes, we need those
>>>> quotes on new iLink/Fireware/IEEE1394/MiniDV cameras.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, and the best I can see -- as you show -- are the "professional" models:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.sony.com.au/product/hdr-fx1000e/specs      RRP AUD $5699
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But I thought I saw one around $1500 or so.... can't see it now...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What we HAD put on our original submission was a quote for a pair of Canon
>>>> HV20 from Camera-Warehouse.com.au, but now that I check that it doesn't have
>>>> firewire...
>>>>
>>>> I spoke with Plaza camera and they don't have anything.  They did recommend
>>>> Camera Electronic, whom I have emailed. http://www.cameraelectronic.com.au/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The rest of these are missing it...
>>>> http://www.sony.com.au/product/CompareProducts.action?site=hp_en_AU_i&models=HDR-PJ50VE&models=HDR-XR160E&models=DCR-SR68E&models=HDR-PJ30VE&models=HDR-PJ10E&models=HDR-CX700VE&models=HDR-CX130E&models=HDR-CX110E&models=DCR-SX65E&models=HDR-AX2000E&models=HDR-FX1000E&models=NEX-VG20E&models=NEX-VG20EH&models=NEX-VG10E
>>>>
>>>> Probably one of these archived ones are available in shops:
>>>> http://www.sony.com.au/product/ProductComparisonWizard.action?site=hp_en_AU_i&sectiontype=product&modelName=HDR-FX1000E&deepestLevelCategoryId=CAM+Camcorder
>>>>
>>>> Google's not helping much:
>>>> http://www.google.com.au/search?q=camcorder+ilink|firewire|1394+-cable&tbm=shop
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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