[plug] Problem with NE2000 card using thin coax.

Rob Hall rob at hcm.iinet.net.au
Wed Mar 3 09:33:23 WST 1999


David,

If they have a Realtek chipset (an aweful lot are), I might just have the
drivers you need.  I could probably email them to you, or if you like you
could pick them up from here since I'm not that far from you.

Regards,


Rob Hall


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-plug at linux.org.au [mailto:owner-plug at linux.org.au]On Behalf
> Of David Buddrige
> Sent: 02 March 1999 23:57
> To: Bob Ogden; plug at linux.org.au
> Subject: Re: [plug] Problem with NE2000 card using thin coax.
>
>
> Thanks for the offer 8-)  I've got terminators set up - I'll
> explain better
> what the situ is...  8-)
>
> [terminator]--+--------------------------+------------------------
> --+---[terminator]
>
>
> |
> |                                                              |
> [linux-proxy 192.168.1.1]                      [win95
> 192.168.1.2]                                [ win95 192.168.1.3  ]
>  Computer Name: Proxy                     Computer Name:
> bruce                            Computer Name: Keith
>
>
> I know, i know - they're win95 boxes - ok the heresy is 'cause computer
> "bruce" has a Voodoo Banche (4 games) that isn't linux supported (yet -
> though 3dfx r working on it).  keith isn't super interested in linux yet
> (bruce thinks it's pretty neat though).
>
> Given that my two brothers live at home - and there's one phone
> line in/out -
> it sort'a made sense for them to share a dial-up account rather than
> seperately pay for one.   They messed about with various win95
> based proxying
> software - but since:
>
> a. Bruce has wanted to learn linux, samba, squid and other such
> software for
> some time
> b. Windows net sharing software has disadvantages in being payware,
> unreliable, windows based, etc,etc.
>
> We decided it'd be a great idea to set up a linux box to do the
> job. Bruce's
> had a 486dx-4-100 set aside for the job for some time -  but it only had
> 200mb hard-drive - however yesterday, keith got a 4gb hard-drive for his
> machine, so he gave bruce his 250mb hard-drive - hence the new linux-proxy
> obtained 2 x hard-drives which I installed with redhat 5.2 +
> squid + samba.
>
> Now, we had a couple 'o ne2000 cards - we installed one which was plug 'n
> pray - but our prayers remained unanswered.  We installed another (older
> card), and were able to get it talking to redhat.
>
> The reason I think that the problem lies with not being able to get it to
> send data via the coax is because I have the identical problem at
> home - I've
> a situation like this:
>
>
>              internet
>                  |
>        [modem-2-internet]
>                  |
> [my-linux-box-with-squid-running]
> [my-wife's-win95-box]
>
> 192.168.1.1
> 192.168.1.11
>
> |
> |
>                    +----------- cat 5 cross-over-cable ---------+
>
> I did this because I'd originally obtained a length of coax + 2 T
> pieces + 2
> Terminators, and set them up to talk together but they refused.
> As soon as I
> put the cross-over-cable in however they were talking away without a
> problem.  (Both my network cards were 2nd hand too)
>
> I'll be following Tom's suggestion and "using the source" to
> figure out if we
> can force it (I'd considered slapping together some c code to
> toggle - ie. a
> utilitiy I was going to call "togglecard" taking parameters such
> as "--utp"
> or "--coax" or somesuch.... ;-)   ) -- I actually scanned the net today
> trying to track down enough internal specs on ne2000 cards to see what
> network registry  i'd need to toggle - but couldn't find it...
>
> Cheers everyone for their help so far... 8-)
>
> David Buddrige.
>
>
> Bob Ogden wrote:
>
> > Sounds like you need to terminate the coax at each end. I have some
> > terminators here if you need some, just let me know.
> >
> > HTH.
> >
> > In <36DBF47B.A047512E at q-net.net.au>, on 02/Mar/99
> >    at 10:23 PM,(+0800 GMT)
> > David Buddrige <buddrige at q-net.net.au> said:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> >
> > > Got a bit of a problem with ne2000 network cards...
> >
> > > My brother has obtained a number of ne2000 compatible network cards -
> > > one of which we have put into a 486DX-4-100 which will be a
> proxy server
> > > to allow both of my brothers to browse the web simultaenously..
> >
> > > They have a computer each on their desks (in two different
> rooms in the
> > > house) - networked together using thin coax cabling.
> >
> > > However it seems their prior owners used cat5 twisted pair
> cable - I've
> > > got the network card working just fine usnig redhat 5.2 - the machine
> > > recognises the card - and it can ping itself - but the other two
> > > machines on the same stretch of coax (maybe 10 meters length in total)
> > > cannot ping the machine (nor can the linux machine ping it).
> >
> > > Given that we obtained these cards second hand - we don't
> have the disks
> > > to go with them - and in any case we want to configure it under linux
> > > (the machine is installed with 100% linux - no dos partitions at all).
> > > Does anyone know how to get the things to use their thin coax port
> > > rather than the utp port?  (I've actually had the exact problem at my
> > > own place - I wound up networking the two computer I wanted to connect
> > > using a twisted-pair cross-over-cable - I've not been able to get the
> > > cards configured to use the cat5 conenctor to work over thin coax....
> >
> > > Has anyone seen this before and have a solution? - I've been scanning
> > > usenet / hotbot, but no luck so far... 8-(
> >
> > > Thanks heaps in advance... 8-)
> >
> > > David Buddrige
> > > buddrige at q-net.net.au
> >
> > --
> > /-- Bob Ogden  bob at contact.omen.com.au --------------/
> > /  -... --- -...   --- --. -.. . -.       Finger  for PGP key -----/
> >
> > Does your system break in 304 days?
>



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