Should have mentioned this in the previous email but we also have a local copy of the q3atest tar.gz available at: ftp://ftp.axg.net/linux/quake3/q3test-1.03-glibc-6.i386.tar.gz Hopefully should be a fair bit faster for you pluggers to download from there. (It's a ~21meg download and does require a 3dfx card...but worth it!) Gavin