hya, A quick suggestion, have you got portmap running? If so did you edit /etc/hosts.allow or /etc/hosts.deny and put something in there? Telnet runs off the tcp.d, which relys on these files. Regards Paul Dean IT Support Officer Canning College Computing Centre Ph: 9350 5430 Mob: 0408 902 206 paul at canningcollege.wa.edu.au