> -help on the ISP web pages to explain what I can get at for free (and how to use > traceroute etc), or > http://www.westnet.com.au/products/access/broadband/adsl/waix.htm Thats a pretty good explanation... Also, for a WAIX machine to trace from on WestNet's network: http://www.3fl.net/cgi-bin/trace / Ben