[plug] ZDNet Australia News & Tech OS SCO takes Linux to Murdoch Univers ity (fwd)

[James Elliott]

Don't get your knickers in a knot, Bret ....... I said:
"I am not sure what you mean when you say: ....etc quoting you ......"

which could be contrued as a question for further information.

It wasn't meant to sound like I was "dismissing the information as being
incorrect"

Obvioulsy, from what you say, you are a Murdoch student;  have done the same
units as I have; and know what you are talking about.  But not everyone is
like you.  When I first enrolled a colleague said "Why did you pick
Murdoch? - they only use Apple Macs there and only teach Apple Talk"  So,
when you say something that sounds like "Murdoch has seen the light" and
doscovered Linux for the first time, I was curious to find out what you were
talking about .... that's all .... not "dismissing the information as being
incorrect".

Sorry if I offended - and thanks for the information.  Even though I will be
finished in about a month, I might consider doing the Linux units on a "not
for degree" basis.

James Elliott
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bret Busby" <bret at busby.net>
To: <plug at plug.linux.org.au>
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [plug] ZDNet Australia News & Tech OS SCO takes Linux to
Murdoch Univers ity (fwd)


> On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, James Elliott wrote:
>
> >
> > I am a Murdoch External Student - I have already done units in Linux, so
I
> > am not sure what you mean when you say:
> >
> > "Just received from Anne - apparently, SCO and Murdoch are entering into
> > a partnership to teach Linux, from next semester"
> >
> > I studied Linux last semester
>
> What specifically, did you study? Was the unit named Linux 101?
>
> I am and have been a student at Murdoch. B227 Data Communications, and
> B316 Computer Systems and Network Management, both INCLUDED Linux as the
> operating system used, but the units did not teach exclusively Linux,
> or, result in a Linux qualification. Christian's security unit, likely
> INCLUDES Linux, but does not lead to a formal Linux qualification.
>
> I trust that you DID read the article?
>
> Given that the particular course(s) is/are due to start next year,
> perhaps, you should wait and see what is involved, or, ASK the
> university, BEFORE dismissing the information as being incorrect.
>
> I trust that you are aware of the partnership between Murdoch Division
> of BITL and CISCO, that leads to a CISCO qualification? I assume that
> this is the start of an equivalent thing for Linux.
>
> Perhaps, you should investigate it, before dismissing it.
>
> "Damnant quod non intelligunt"; "they condemn what they do not
> understand."
>
> >
> > The only Microsoft package that got a mention in the whole course was
Access
> > in the Unit on Databases ... that's OK because Orcale is the king of the
> > huge, distributed databases and Access is the best, if not the only,
> > relational database for standalone PC's
> >
>
> Funny - I thought that PostgreSQL is a far better DBMS for standalone
> PC's. I use it a little here. Since you are such a database expert, no
> doubt, you are aware of the differences between the two, and, the
> limitations of Access, in terms of locks, as applying to concurrent
> accessing of database information? Concurrent data accessing is not
> limited to multiple physical users; if you have a database, and you are
> tring to enter data, while you are running a report, you might have a
> bit of difficulty. Similarly, when a report tries to access the same
> record or table, for more than one process at the same time, the locking
> could present problems. That is just one of the advantages of PostgreSQL
> over MS Access. Also, I trust that you are aware of the non-compliances
> of MS Access with ANSI SQL-92, and the severe limitations of MS Access?
>
> It all depends whether you are referring to a toy, student database,
> or to a commercial database, even for a standalone, single-user
> workstation (PC is an incorrect term, like the misuse of the term
> hacking, as, if a single computer is used in a business, for commercial
> puposes, it is no longer personal, is it?).
>
> Oh, and, from memory, PostgreSQL is far more ANSI SQL-92 compliant, than
> "Orcale", and, I trust that you are aware of the Web Blades, etc from
> Informix Universal Server, now incorporated into DB2, now that IBM
> bought out Informix?
>
> Actually, from what I understood, it was more SAS, for huge databases,
> depending on the purpose of the databases.
>
> However when you get into data mining, and data warehousing, and setting
> up multi-dimensional cubes and things, that tends to be done in things
> other than Oracle, but, Anne knows more about that, than me. I trust
> that you have done all of these things, in your obviously omnipotent
> experience and expertise, of huge distributed databases, to which you
> have referred?
>
> I assume from what you have said, that ActivePerl is no longer used in
> the units B211 Internet Computing? Given that ActivePerl is a Windows
> based version of Perl, if ActivePerl is still used, that would imply
> that MS Windows is used, still?
>
> Similarly, I assume from what you have said, that MS Office is no longer
> used for the unit B105 Introduction to Information Technology, and, that
> now, Star Office, or, OpenOffice.org, is now used.
>
> Similarly, I assume from your message, that B108 Introduction to
> Multimedia and the Internet, is now taught using Linux, and Linux based
> appliocations, rather than MS Windows and Windows based applications?
>
> --
> Bret Busby
> Armadale
> West Australia
> ..............
>
> "So once you do know what the question actually is,
>  you'll know what the answer means."
> - Deep Thought,
>   Chapter 28 of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
> - Douglas Adams, 1988
> ....................................................
>
>
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