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[Shayne O'Neill]

Is there an email list for LinmagAU? Seems the most apropriate place
to coordinate any rebirthing/fixing of it?

I'm figuring I should help out , being both a geek, a trained journalist
and having some editorial experience. I promise I'll avoid my
left-wing-nutcase tendencies :)

I had some articles on the burner on boa-constructor , Lazarus and the
python Webware servlet system.

Just tell me where to sign up and I'm on the case.

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"Must not Sleep! Must warn others!"
-Aesop.
Shayne O'Neill. Indymedia. Fun.
http://www.perthimc.asn.au

On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, Kimberly Shelt wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 09:21:13PM +0800, Ben Jensz wrote:
> > Senectus - wrote:
> >
> > >I feel that if we can get a handful of guy^H^H^H  People together to
> > >run the site as is for a few months, then if all looks stable, we'll
> > >talk about rebuilding and financing into something with the same
> > >"structure" and design philosophy but better technical implementation
> > >(not that I'm saying its badly done now, but there is always something
> > >better... its part of being a geek).
> >
> > As skribe has mentioned, PHP-Nuke has serious security issues (and it
> > has done for a few years now ).  So based on what Kim has said, it
> > sounds like its more than likely that PHP-Nuke is where the point of
> > attack has been.
>
> This is an assumption by you.. NOT ME.. I still stick with sucking
> my passwd from the home system.. aka doze.. but the reality is just what I said..
> finger pointing ..no matter what you run.. people have better ideas..
> about what is more secure.. this is an issue the person who runs a site
> has to deal with.. I dont know one from the other..
> I do know that lots of sites run it.. and for the most part I never had
> any issues..
>
> And the verdict is not in anyway..
>
> BTW I ran POST NUKE...
>
> Especially considering the profile of the site on
> > places such as Slashdot.  By the way, don't take it that I'm saying
> > anything negative about the way that you did Linmagau in the past Kim, I
> > think you've done a great job of it.. and I think that has been shown
> > through the fact that so many people have put their hands up after its
> > gone down. :)
>
> I dont :)
> Putting up hands is the easy part.. doing the work and doing it consistantly
> over a period of time.. is the hard part :)..well so it seems :)
> >
> > So what happens if you put all the time and effort into running it for a
> > couple of months under the same structure and it all comes to a
> > screaming halt again and you're left to try and rebuild it *again*.  You
> > certainly wouldn't be a happy camper.
>
> I havent said I woudl rebuild under the same or a different structure
> you assume :(
> >
> > So personally I think if its going to be resurrected, maybe a slightly
> > different system is devised to undertake the task this time... so that
> > past issues are learnt from and not re-enacted.
>
> Great..then you pick the "right".. code..or scripts or cms or whatever :)
>
> Then find a place to put it.. and an admin (or do it yourself) to buiild
> the back end.. say Zope/Plone etc.. get them to change the whole box to
> suit your needs .. etc etc :)
> that is of course if you are sharing a box with other folk.. else
> find and place a box and then admin it it as well :)
>
> I am NOT being negative here..just realistic.. truely it is not a little
> issue to host this kind of thing..and horms has been amazingly helpful..
>
> perhaps you have the infrastructure and time to do it all yourself..
> then great.. stick up your hand.. get it happening :)
>
> Kim
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