[plug] distro non-wars: Debian vs Gentoo vs LFS for specific purposes
Denis Brown
dsbrown at cyllene.uwa.edu.au
Wed Apr 28 09:32:48 WST 2004
Dear PLUG list members,
This is *not* an attempt to start a distro war :-)
I am usually a died-in-the-wool Debian user thanks to good experiences in
the past in terms of stability, suitability for the task, etc. My recent
activities in neuroimaging software, the majority of which is open source
(well, limited to researchers in the field, but same
compile-from-source-tarball deal) have made it obvious that Debian woody is
not cutting edge in terms of support packages (gcc and many graphics
support apps for example). Cutting edge stuff is pretty much expected for
the majority of the neuro software that comes my way. I have not faced
problems with driver support since I'm not using bleeding edge laptop or
desktop chipsets in the hardware.
I have been solving these (software) issues by taking a Debian woody,
salting it with a few packages from backports and doing the graphics
support stuff from source. I recently added a gcc-3.3.3 from source,
too. So my security issues are mainly taken care of through Debian and
backports via apt-get assuming I don't break it :-( An incentive with
using Debian is that if I retire, go on long service leave (oh, yeah??) or
fall under a bus, another Linux-aware person can easily take over the
reins. I also like the Debian policy and would much rather go with
something that is aggressively open and non-commercialised. (flames >
/dev/null please)
But looking at what I have, an increasing amount is compiled from
source. So is there a case for compiling the whole shebang from source
and avoiding a "distro" per se? I'd thought, as per the subject line, of
gentoo which from recollection of some topics here is a from-source distro
and Linux From Scratch which by definition, is from sources. The only
down side would be keeping up to date with security issues - to do that
"manually" would mean subscriptions to the security lists for pretty much
all packages! But then I need to keep my eye on developments in the
graphics apps, anyway, so maybe not such a big deal.
I think the beast I manage here is a little different from the Linux in the
Office / School / Library / Local shop environment where if you don't have
the latest stuff under the hood, no one is going to care very much. I
could, of course, be entirely wrong :-) I'd appreciate any thoughts you
may have to offer, especially from gentoo users (eg. Bill?) and anyone who
used or is using LFS.
If I did ever move away from Debian I would need to be satisfied that the
"audit trail" for what was installed and how, was clear enough for someone
to step into my role and be productive quickly.
TIA,
Denis
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