If there is anyone on the list that feels they are a Debian guru, can I get a call on 9227 0892? or e-mail me off-list. Jon L. Miller, MCNE, CNS, ASE Director/Sr Systems Consultant MMT Networks Pty Ltd http://www.mmtnetworks.com.au "I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody." -Bill Cosby