On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 11:14:15AM +0800, Senectus . wrote: | | Again.. I could be wrong, there may be other ways (more than likely) | but that was my experience... regurgitated... After adding wheel group and editing pam.d/su, now only I have rights to use su to root. One step closer to a slightly more secure system and curing paranoi a bit. thanks for that. Ryan