[plug] ownership

[Marc Wiriadisastra]

James Devenish wrote:

>In message <4108AF16.2030409 at smlintl.com.au>
>on Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 04:02:30PM +0800, Marc Wiriadisastra wrote:
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>>James Devenish wrote:
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>>>In message <4108A778.40304 at smlintl.com.au>
>>>on Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 03:30:00PM +0800, Marc Wiriadisastra wrote:
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>>>>1. How do I enforce something going into a folder to be changed to the 
>>>>permissions of that folder ignoring what the users rights are.
>>>>e.g. I have on my desktop a folder I transfer
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>>>Via what means are you transferring those files?
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>>Ok I'm transferring the files using Open Office as in save as or kde 
>>using kde as in copy and paste or Konsole.
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>Aiyee. We're about to hit a language barrier here. I'm going to ignore
>some things that you've previously said, make a few assumptions, and
>make an answer based on that. Sounds like you have 'mounted' the
>fileserver's disk onto your workstation over a network, so that it
>appears just like a hard drive on your workstation. You say that you're
>"saving" files into that fileserver. 'Saving' a file to a new location
>is slightly different to what UNIX people usually mean by
>"transferring". "Saving" a file to a new location is like "starting from
>scratch". "Transferring", however, is not usually interpreted as
>"starting from scratch". The permissions of a file created from scratch
>will often depend on your "umask". This "umask" is a way of preventing
>you from accidently making your files accessible to everyone. This is
>quite intentional and it suits most people, but it happens to be
>different from what you want. The precise rectification of this problem
>will depend on details that you have not yet provided (I will now let
>someone else deal with this).
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In regards to creation of the file I've tried that as well it creates me 
as the owner and my home group as the group and permissions are the same 
as the folder however the ownership of that "created" file should be the 
ownership of that folder I would assume.  I basically haver separated 
all permissions according to groups so the "sales" group puts files in 
folder x whether new or existing and the owner and group should be the 
same as the folder that it was put in.

For arguments sake. 
I am marc-w:wheel
so therefore if I create a file it gets those permissions therefore if I 
create a file as in "nano test" it will get those permissions.  What I 
want to happen is if I'm under a certain directory I want that directory 
to enfore its own permissions on all files under it.  The reason or 
logic behind it is because if I create a document like a fax on my 
computer and I want to save that new fax on teh server under the sales 
folder I would want other people in the sales department to have read 
and write permissions to it whether I am the owner or not.


 They log in and they see only that folder that works so far but in the 
creation I sometimes get an error of no permission to write there which 
is wierd.

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>>>>Jul 29 15:19:20 dhcp-192-168-0-104 gdm(pam_unix)[2454]: session opened 
>>>>for user marc-w by (uid=0)
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>That log line...is it coming from your workstation or from the remote
>server to which you are attempting to connect? Can you contact the
>administrator of that server? 
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>That error is coming from my work server which I am the administrator of heheh.  I can log in as root but I don't like doing that for some reason I can't log in as myself. Thats the error message from the server sorry.
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