[plug] Re: plug Digest, Vol 8, Issue 4

Christopher Whittaker chriswhittaker at smartchat.net.au
Mon Oct 4 20:45:25 WST 2004


Just a short note to thank all you guys who responded to my question on Myth Tv ( turns out mysql was the issue basically it was not connected DOHHH!!!!) and for answering my question on SMP, i appreciated the interest and responses.  

I had heard a lot about the "spirit"  of open source and after being a slave to Bills Bloatware  decided to find out what all the fuss was about. I am very pleased that i made the move..

Thanks again everyone who helped out.

Chris Whittaker


On Mon,  4 Oct 2004 12:00:15 +0800 (WST)
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> Today's Topics:
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>    1. Wine not finding CD (skribe)
>    2. Ubuntu-linux waix mirror (Michael Hunt)
>    3. Re: Ubuntu-linux waix mirror (Bernard Blackham)
>    4. Re: Wine not finding CD (Matt Carlsen)
>    5. Re: I am Mythtified by Mythtv (Carl Gherardi)
>    6. Nautilus hangs in fluxbox. (Lyndon Maydwell)
>    7. Nautilus 2.6.3 (New behaviour?) (Tim White)
>    8. Re: Nautilus 2.6.3 (New behaviour?) (Craig Ringer)
>    9. Re: Nautilus 2.6.3 (New behaviour?) (Adam Ashley)
>   10. Re: HTML mail (partial flame and suggestions) (Bret Busby)
>   11. Re: Nautilus hangs in fluxbox. (James Devenish)
>   12. Re: Nautilus 2.6.3 (New behaviour?) (Rennie)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 16:18:56 +0800
> From: skribe <skribe at amber.com.au>
> Subject: [plug] Wine not finding CD
> To: plug at plug.linux.org.au
> Message-ID: <200410031618.57261.skribe at amber.com.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Hey folks:
> 
> I have a windows program that appears to run fine under wine but requires the 
> CD to be inserted otherwise it runs in demo mode only.  I can't seem to get 
> it to recognise the cd.  Any suggestions?
> 
> skribe
> -- 
> Public key information available at:
> http://www.amber.com.au/~skribe/publickey.html
> Key fingerprint = A855 9CA3 953B 5195 C518  12F2 0E05 DCCD 5A88 E8A4 
> 
> Women are all alike.  When they're maids they're mild as milk: once make 'em
> wives, and they lean their backs against their marriage certificates, and
> defy you.
> 		-- Jerrold
> 
> Xaraya Content Management Solutions http://www.xaraya.com/
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 17:27:55 +0800
> From: Michael Hunt <michael at aussie.oddsocks.net>
> Subject: [plug] Ubuntu-linux waix mirror
> To: plug at plug.linux.org.au
> Message-ID: <1096795675.3605.5.camel at localhost.localdomain>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> Hiya all,
> 
> I am looking to give the ubuntu-linux distro a whirl and was planning to
> download it from the following Australian mirror.
> 
> http://mirror.isp.net.au/ftp/pub/ubuntu/
> 
> >From the main web page there is a link to Check your connectivity from
> this network that points to the following URL :-
> 
> http://looking-glass.isp.net.au/
> 
> Can anyone tell me how I use this interface (WAIX appears to have the
> same interface but no instructions). I'm wanting to know if this will
> count against my monthly bandwidth or is provided somehow through the
> WAIX network. (Early indications are not looking good).
> 
> My local ISP is Arachnet if that is of help to anyone.
> 
> Michael Hunt
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 17:33:44 +0800
> From: Bernard Blackham <bernard at blackham.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [plug] Ubuntu-linux waix mirror
> To: plug at plug.linux.org.au
> Message-ID: <20041003093343.GO2255 at blackham.com.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 05:27:55PM +0800, Michael Hunt wrote:
> > I am looking to give the ubuntu-linux distro a whirl and was planning to
> > download it from the following Australian mirror.
> 
> http://mirrors.uwa.edu.au/linux/ubuntu/ has it. And it's definitely on
> WAIX.
> 
> Bernard.
> 
> -- 
>  Bernard Blackham <bernard at blackham dot com dot au>
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 17:39:20 +0800
> From: Matt Carlsen <matt_carlsen at westnet.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [plug] Wine not finding CD
> To: plug at plug.linux.org.au
> Message-ID: <415FC8C8.9050008 at westnet.com.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> 
> skribe wrote:
> 
> >Hey folks:
> >
> >I have a windows program that appears to run fine under wine but requires the 
> >CD to be inserted otherwise it runs in demo mode only.  I can't seem to get 
> >it to recognise the cd.  Any suggestions?
> >
> >skribe
> >  
> >
> I believe that feature (safedisc, securom, etc) is only built into the 
> paid version of cedega (wineX)
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 20:14:01 +0800
> From: Carl Gherardi <cgherardi at iprimus.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [plug] I am Mythtified by Mythtv
> To: chriswhittaker at smartchat.net.au, plug at plug.linux.org.au
> Message-ID: <B5D2461B-1535-11D9-A7E8-000A95E30390 at iprimus.com.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
> 
> 
> On 01/10/2004, at 10:26 AM, christopher whittaker wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> >  I would really appreciate some help on this one, I am running fedora
> > Core 2 i686 , fully up to date . Pentium 2.4, 1G ram, 120G hard drive
> > sound card, video card, tv card , graphics card all recognized and
> > working.
> >
> > I have tried to run Mythtv from the panel and the Run Application
> > box,and it wouldn't even load then when trying to run from the VI
> > terminal got the following error
> >
> > mythtv
> > Unable to connect to database!
> > Driver error was [1/2002]
> > QMySQL3: Unable to connect
> > database error was:
> > cant connect to MySql server through socket
> > '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock(2)
> >
> > cant connect to db
> >
> 
> I dont think you have started the mysql server
> 
> Check to see you have the server installed:
> rpm -q mysql-server
> 
> That should tell you the version number. If you get nothing you need to 
> install it.
> 
> Then as root run:
> service mysqld start
> 
> I cant advise on MythTV though, never played with it.
> 
> Carl
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 13:55:38 +0000
> From: Lyndon Maydwell <maydwell at gmail.com>
> Subject: [plug] Nautilus hangs in fluxbox.
> To: plug at plug.linux.org.au
> Message-ID: <da8fea9e04100306551f21c6da at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> 
> After mucking around with /etc/fstab I thought I'd got to a point
> where I could get any user to mount a usb disk with the command "mount
> /mnt/memstick"
> 
> # fstab entry for usb-drive
> "/dev/sda1               /mnt/memstick   auto            noauto,user  
>           0 0"
> 
> There was no problems reading the device as any user after issuing the command.
> 
> I then opened up nautilus in fluxbox to see if everything was running
> smoothly, but then nautilus hangs and nothing will kill it, it's
> clearly still accessing /mnt/memstick, because I am unable to unmount
> the device. All varieties of kill fail to kill the nautilus process
> and I'm left with a window that won't close on my desktop. I'm certain
> that I can just restart X and everything will be peachy, but I should
> be able to fix this problem without resorting to that right?
> 
> I'm running gentoo with an up to date, stable (mostly) portage tree
> and the linux-2.6.9-rc2-mm1 kernel.
> 
> "tail --lines=10000 /var/log/messages | grep nautilus"
> returns
> "Process nautilus (pid: 22382, threadinfo=cb222000 task=daec3550)"
> 
> "umount /mnt/memstick"
> returns
> "umount: /mnt/memstick: device is busy"
> 
> "killall -v nautilus" - and several variations of this appear to work.
> "Killed nautilus(22383) with signal 15"
> but on the next "ps -A" it's still there.
> 
> Upon a "ps aux" nautilus returns a status of "R"
> 
> Just ran "nautilus -c" from a terminal and it returned this error:
> 
> "FAIL: check failed in nautilus-file.c, line 5623
>       evaluated: nautilus_file_get_display_name (file_1)
>        expected: Trash
>             got: trash:///"
> 
> 
> ... Any insight?
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 17:32:51 +0800
> From: Tim White <weirdo at tigris.org>
> Subject: [plug] Nautilus 2.6.3 (New behaviour?)
> To: plug at plug.linux.org.au
> Message-ID: <415E75C3.9060206 at tigris.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> 
> Debian testing.
> I have just done an update of some gnome files including nautilus. I 
> pulled them from testing (well testing is my default dist) and Nautilus 
> is now 2.6.3 and seems to have had a behaviour change. It no longer has 
> a toolbar, address bar, side panel, or even the inline viewer (text, 
> picture...)
> I really miss the old Nautilus and the new one reminds me of Windows 
> (opening all folders in a new window) and it seems really hard to use. 
> It also has a new desktop icon called Computer that is the root of all 
> your browsing unless using a shortcut to get straight to the location as 
> you can't type the address. It has a 'backtrack' kind of menu to allow 
> you to go up in the tree.
> It seems really bad, any suggestions as to a fix? Am I missing something 
> or did Nautilus really 'go backwards'?
> Tim
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 22:36:18 +0800
> From: Craig Ringer <craig at postnewspapers.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [plug] Nautilus 2.6.3 (New behaviour?)
> To: Perth Linux User Group <plug at plug.linux.org.au>
> Message-ID: <1096814178.28504.31.camel at albert.localnet>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> On Sat, 2004-10-02 at 17:32, Tim White wrote:
> > I have just done an update of some gnome files including nautilus. I 
> > pulled them from testing (well testing is my default dist) and Nautilus 
> > is now 2.6.3 and seems to have had a behaviour change. It no longer has 
> > a toolbar, address bar, side panel, or even the inline viewer (text, 
> > picture...)
> [snip]
> > It seems really bad, any suggestions as to a fix? Am I missing something 
> > or did Nautilus really 'go backwards'?
> 
> http://google.com/search?=spatial+nautilus
> 
> The change sparked a controversy the likes of the old GNOME/KDE debates
> ;-)
> 
> As for turning it off:
> http://google.com.au/search?q=spatial+nautilus+disable
> 
> --
> Craig Ringer
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 00:23:38 +0800
> From: Adam Ashley <adam_ashley at softhome.net>
> Subject: Re: [plug] Nautilus 2.6.3 (New behaviour?)
> To: plug at plug.linux.org.au
> Message-ID: <1096820619.10768.3.camel at localhost>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> On Sat, 2004-10-02 at 17:32 +0800, Tim White wrote:
> > Debian testing.
> 
> woo for up to date debian, any information you're after for fixing this,
> look 6 to 8 months ago on mailing lists.
> 
> but basically
> 
> nautilus --browser
> 
> to launch the old mode 
> 
> or fire up System Tools > Configuration Manager (gconf-editor from the
> command line if they've decided to move it/rename it to be helpful) and
> enable the follow option to enable browser mode by default
> 
> apps/nautilus/preferences/always_use_browser
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 01:22:35 +0800 (WST)
> From: Bret Busby <bret at busby.net>
> Subject: Re: [plug] HTML mail (partial flame and suggestions)
> To: plug at plug.linux.org.au
> Message-ID:
> 	<Pine.LNX.4.44.0410040057460.16603-100000 at BBRH73.busby.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> On Sat, 2 Oct 2004, James Devenish wrote:
> 
> > Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 10:01:53 +0800
> > From: James Devenish <devenish at guild.uwa.edu.au>
> > Reply-To: plug at plug.linux.org.au
> > To: plug at plug.linux.org.au
> > Newsgroups: plug.list
> > Subject: Re: [plug] HTML mail (partial flame and suggestions)
> > 
> > In article <415D215D.9050603 at tigris.org>, Tim White wrote:
> > > > An alternative is to filter all mail on the server to convert HTML
> > > > to plain text,
> > > Would doing this solve lots of problems though? Especially if an HTML 
> > > exploit is sent from a subscribers address, there are going to be some 
> > > people on the list using Outlook because they don't know any better. I 
> > > know this should be addressed on the client end but after reading the 
> > > stuff below as well I am thinking that filtering all emails through 
> > > 'lynx -dump' or 'html2txt' or something similar may be benifitial on 
> > > more than one way.
> > 
> > It is true that Mailman already includes a feature to do this (it can
> > strip out the HTML part if a corresponding plain-text part is present,
> > then convert any lone HTML parts to plain text). Of course, this can at
> > times result in an unfaithful reproduction of what the sender sent to
> > the list. But I'm not inclined to be the one to put my foot down and
> > modify the list to use this feature given the current lack of feedback
> > from others.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Rootsweb, which hosts about 50,000 mailing lists, simply strips off HTML 
> components, and bounces messages that are HTML and do not have any text 
> component.
> 
> Posters to the Rootsweb lists, have many different email applications, 
> including Outlook Express, etc.
> 
> It seems to work okay for the Rootsweb lists, but I believe that 
> Rootsweb uses Smartlist, and not Mailman.
> 
> -- 
> Bret Busby
> Armadale
> West Australia
> ..............
> 
> "So once you do know what the question actually is,
>  you'll know what the answer means."
> - Deep Thought,
>   Chapter 28 of 
>   "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
>   A Trilogy In Four Parts",
>   written by Douglas Adams, 
>   published by Pan Books, 1992 
> ....................................................
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 08:42:02 +0800
> From: James Devenish <devenish at guild.uwa.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: [plug] Nautilus hangs in fluxbox.
> To: plug at plug.linux.org.au, Lyndon Maydwell <maydwell at gmail.com>
> Message-ID: <20041004004202.GA22721 at mail.guild.uwa.edu.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Hi,
> 
> In message <da8fea9e04100306551f21c6da at mail.gmail.com>
> on Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 01:55:38PM +0000, Lyndon Maydwell wrote:
> > "Killed nautilus(22383) with signal 15"
> > but on the next "ps -A" it's still there.
> 
> "Signal 15" is known as SIGTERM. FYI, there is also a "mandatory" kill
> signal, SIGKILL (signal 9), that will "always" work. It can often be
> specified on the command line as the "-KILL" option. The only time it
> tends to fail is if the Linux kernel is stuck (as can occur with disk
> crashes).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 10:28:15 +0800
> From: Rennie <renene at barekoala.net>
> Subject: Re: [plug] Nautilus 2.6.3 (New behaviour?)
> To: plug at plug.linux.org.au
> Message-ID: <4160B53F.9050903 at barekoala.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> 
> Tim White wrote:
> > Debian testing.
> > I have just done an update of some gnome files including nautilus. I 
> > pulled them from testing (well testing is my default dist) and Nautilus 
> > is now 2.6.3 and seems to have had a behaviour change. It no longer has 
> > a toolbar, address bar, side panel, or even the inline viewer (text, 
> > picture...)
> > I really miss the old Nautilus and the new one reminds me of Windows 
> > (opening all folders in a new window) and it seems really hard to use. 
> > It also has a new desktop icon called Computer that is the root of all 
> > your browsing unless using a shortcut to get straight to the location as 
> > you can't type the address. It has a 'backtrack' kind of menu to allow 
> > you to go up in the tree.
> > It seems really bad, any suggestions as to a fix? Am I missing something 
> > or did Nautilus really 'go backwards'?
> > Tim
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > PLUG discussion list: plug at plug.linux.org.au
> > http://mail.plug.linux.org.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/plug
> > Committee e-mail: committee at plug.linux.org.au
> > 
> 
> Konqueror?
> 
> As always it comes down to personal preferences but I've found that most 
> KDE apps find a good balance between usability and choice. That's just 
> my opinion, maybe I'm missing out on some cool feature in Gnome because 
> I've not used it for a year or so.
> 
> R
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
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