[plug] New PLUG news server

James Devenish devenish at guild.uwa.edu.au
Thu Sep 30 12:10:29 WST 2004


In message <30bs22xcfn.ln2 at innovative.iinet.net.au>
on Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 11:26:27AM +0800, Bernd Felsche wrote:
> Re-constructing threads between before and after will require some
> manual intervention.

Message-ID issues like "rejection" or limits in the References header,
if in fact these would be of practical significance, are not discussed
in the leafnode2 documentation as far as I am aware.

> You probably saw that message on the PLUG list so why ask about
> somebody going away for 2 weeks missing out?

I did not ask about this.

> The purpose of having archives is not simply to have them; but to be
> able to search them effectively. Experience tells me that to attempt
> to try to search a million messages by NNTP operating through a damp
> piece of string is folly.

I am not proposing that users would attempt to move large volumes
through a damp piece of string. And while that it may be your own
meritorious agenda to carry on about ideas about search engines,
that is a distinct topic of discussion from what I had asked.

Your ideas about doubling the number of newsgroups to accommodate
'active' groups and 'archival' groups is something to be considered, but
you have *never* explained in clear and reasonable terms why we should
not have a neater arrangement for users (however, you *have* claimed
that it should all be obvious and self-evident to me). You are now
clearly proposing two asymmetrical newsgroups for each mailing list. My
argument was to have the archive and the active group as one-and-the
same. You now claim "performance" issues, which is reasonable, although
you seem to be trying to keep all your previous arguments in "grey
areas", which makes it very difficult for me to debate with you (e.g.
"I've had over 20,000 articles in a newsgroup in the past without
technical issues; other than excessive space requirements"..."Leafnode
and other small-system news servers have performance issues when
newsgroups get large"). I do not have experience with newsgroups
containing more than 30 000 articles and I do not know what is
"large" in leafnode's terms.





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