[plug] International student w/ DDoS and social engineering history

[Chris Caston]

On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 13:12, Russell Steicke wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 12:41:33PM +0800, Alex Polglaze wrote:
> > You just try harder. If it was easy everyone would do. It just soviety's 
>                                                                  ^^^^^^
> > way of rewarding effort.
> 
> That's the most amusing spelling mistake I've seen in a long while.
> :)
> 
> > A fact of life is that most people give up and then envy those who have 
> > succedded. Everybody comes into this world with the same opportunity. Take 
> > Bill Wylie as an example, he was born in a tiny, tiny town like Tone River 
> > or something like that, that very few people have even heard of, let alone 
> > been there. He made it. Dick Smith is a nother example, Sir Richard 
> > Branson, Anita Roddick. How many examples do you want, of people who have 
> > stated with nothing, absolutely nothing and built vast empires and at the 
> > same time are good corporate citizens and good citizens in general.
> 
> The problem with this argument is the implicit assumption that because
> one person (or N people, for values of N significantly less than the
> population size) can do this, then everyone can do it.  It's
> impossible for everyone to build vast empires.  Dick Smith and Richard
> Branson require most of us to be ordinary, in order for their
> businesses to work.  (Yes, I know Dicky sold his stuff to Woolworths
> and doesn't run the chain any more, but the point stands.)
> 
> I don't give a flying how many examples of enormous wealth you can
> come up with, but I also don't begrudge the people in your examples
> their wealth, as long as it's accumulated legally and ethically.
> What's important is that everyone has a chance to be ordinary, where
> "ordinary" includes "comfortable" and "secure".  Examples of people
> who try and get screwed over trump examples of people who try and
> succeed.  If they don't then we're playing statistical games with
> people's lives.
> 

How about?

Option 
(1) Allow them to work in a job
-or-
(2) Allow them to start their own business and give other people jobs
or
(3) Admit the truth that you just want them to disappear of the face of
the planet