David Dartnall wrote: > Last month we received a letter from Telstra saying in part: You could go the way of a friend of mine: Cable internet, VoIP http://www.engin.com.au/public/index.asp He pays cable fee plus $10/month for the Engin service - no phone line needed. Of course, the cable is with Telstra, but you can't win 'em all. Greg.